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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Saturday, July 28, 2007

Reds acquire Jorge Cantu, Shaun Cumberland and cash

The Reds acquired infielder Jorge Cantu, outfielder Shaun Cumberland and cash from the Devil Rays today in exchange for pitchers Brian Shackelford and Calvin Medlock and future considerations.

Cantu is on the 40-man roster and will be optioned to Triple-A Louisville. Cumberland will be assigned to Double-A Chattanooga.

In 2005, Cantu produced a Tampa Bay club record 117 RBI and was named the Devil Rays' MVP by the local chapter of the Baseball Writers' Association of America. This season, he appeared in 25 games with Tampa Bay and 23 with its Triple-A affiliate in Durham. He batted .207 with four RBI for the Devil Rays and .244 with five doubles and 10 RBI with Durham.

Cumberland is a former 10th round draft pick by the Devil Rays. He was hitting .246 with six homers and 34 RBI with Double-A Montgomery this season.


14 Comments:

at 7:01 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Help me out. What is the purpose of this trade?

The Reds appear to need a bullpen, starting pitching, a catcher and a GM. So why acquire an infielder and an outfielder?

 
at 7:05 PM Blogger mike said...

and people thought there was going to be no HUGE blockbuster trades... well here it is, what a monster!

 
at 7:47 PM Anonymous Justin Fernandez said...

While I'm a fan of Cantu's I must admit to being a little confused...we're trading AWAY pitchers?

If anything we should be holding open auditions on the Mound every Monday morning.

 
at 8:26 PM Blogger Mr. Redlegs said...

If you paid attention, looked around, noticed that perhaps, hmmm, this team has two infielders on the DL, has another on the restricted list, has another that's in a prolonged funk, and maybe-perhaps-I-dunno . . . THAT'S WHY YOU PICK UP ANOTHER MAJOR LEAGUE-EXPERIENCED INFIELDER.

Cantu can probably be expected to come up first of the week. So the deal is essentially one of a badly needed extra infielder (Cantu) for a Class AA reliever (Medlock) you have no idea whether he'll pan out or not.

Have to make these moves sometimes to fit a need.

Shackelford is a toss-away. Surprised it didn't happen a year ago.

 
at 8:57 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obviously, this was a trade for need. With Pedro Lopez and Juan Castro being hurt, the Reds needed a backup infielder until A Gonzo comes back.

 
at 9:48 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Got to agree with conventional wisdom thus far on this one. Cantu has good upside, but there is no current opening in the infield. More importantly, I can't believe we're trading away young relievers. Medlock could be a real good one.

 
at 10:03 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

It looks like we are moving pitchers out of our HORRIBLE Louisville bullpen, in order to promote some talent. Shack has not good enough to make the bullpen we want the Reds to have. I like the move, buy low on Cantu....dump Shack.

 
at 10:17 PM Blogger hugh said...

Come on guys! Every trade does not have to meet every immediate need! This was a chance to pick up a potentially valuable player at little risk without giving up a lot. Exactly the thing a small market like the Reds needs to do. Remember Josh Hamilton and Brandon Phillips?

 
at 11:25 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jay Bruce was sent to AAA a couple weeks back due to the lack of depth in the upper minors for the OF position. He hasn't left creating a void in AA.

Medlock and Shackelford were guys who this F.O. had little interest in keeping, Shack was even taken off the 40 man at one point last winter I believe it was and subsequently cleared waivers. Translation: No one else wanted him either.

Looking at the big picture this is an organization, not just a major league team. Cantu may very well end up on the major league roster when Conine is dealt (and he likely will be) and should provide similiar production Conine does for a fraction of the cost. Cantu made roughly 356 K last season and likely not much more this season, Conine 2 mill this season.

Right or wrong this F.O. believed that Shack and Medlock had no chance of helping this org. and Cantu/Cumberland likely could and I agree.

And once they deal Conine for an arm(s) they like, it's really mostly about saving $$$'s and trying to get better for the future at this point in a bad season.

W.J.

 
at 11:35 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Krivsky does it again! We picked up an outstanding player who is in a rut without giving up anything.

Do you remember how bad Shackelford was last year? He had an ERA over 7.00. He's not much better this year, even in AAA.

Anyone know how good either of the other guys in the deal are? I can't find much on either of them.

Now we have our starting infield for the next four years: Votto, Phillips, Cantu, and either Keppinger or Encarnacion. In two years it will be one of the best in baseball offensively and top 10 defensively.

 
at 2:02 AM Blogger BATSFAN said...

hey all. Went to the bats game tonight lost a double header. Jorge Cantu looked really bat at the plate i think he was 1 for 6 or 7 he looked really bad. Another great trade by our own GM YAYA!

 
at 3:17 AM Blogger Rob Dicken said...

We traded away two pitchers that wouldn't have made it on the Reds to the begin with because they are lackluster. Medlock was posting a 5.63 ERA in Triple A and Shackleford has never proved to be anything more than Triple A talent.

I personally like this deal. Although we need the pitching, we acquired a very good player for little to nothing.

With this acquisition, we may see Edwin Encarnacion used as trade bait within the next few days or so for some relievers.

 
at 10:27 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you paid attention, looked around, noticed that perhaps, hmmm, this team has one major league starting pitcher, who is now out with back problems, and has one major league relief pitcher, who turns 38 in September, you would trade to improve the team.

 
at 12:39 PM Anonymous Justin Fernandez said...

Krivsky gets an "A" for the Cantu pickup if you guys are correct, that Shackleford and Medlock are "dogs," however why would Tampa Bay give away a promising OF and Cantu for nothing? Doesn't Medlock at least have some potential to develop further? At worst, it's a B+/A- trade though. I am impressed.

Cantu might be having problems right now but it was not so long ago that Carlos Pena was in a horrible year-long funk, and now he's Tampa Bay's starting first-baseman w/25 Hrs in 07...Cantu has big potential and will be a great backup for Keppinger-Phillips-Encarnacion (hopefully our starting infield for 20 more years, why would anyone want any other player, currently on the roster, starting at 2B, 3B or SS other than those three?).

Cantu is not just another "major league-experienced infielder" but a potential All-Star (I too believe that if you did it once you can do it again and his best season is Pena-esque in terms of how far he's fallen off that mark.

If he gets close to another year like that, I'll tirelessly praise Krivsky.

Thank you for that trade, Mr. Krivsky!

 
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