Deadline nearer still
The other name I heard in the Braves-Bronson Arroyo talk was Yunel Escobar, the highly rated shortstop. He was Atlanta's second-round pick in 2005. He's a Cuban defector.
posted by John Fay at 2:35 PM
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Post a Comment*From Escobar's minor and major league stats he seems to have very little power or speed. Why so highly touted, John?
He's 24 and playing in the majors for a contender.
Like I said in the last one, "Honestly, as great as Bronson was last year, I wouldn't mind seeing him go. The Reds have plenty of potential starters that could fill the hole, and with Arroyo still here, they won't have the chance. If the Reds can get Reyes and a prospect or two, the deal would be worth it. And with Bailey on the 7-day DL and EZ Ramirez just called up to fill Lohse's roster spot, it looks like we would finally get to see Phil Dumatrait pitch up here. I'm all for the shake-up. Go Krivsky." But with Escobar in there, I think most Reds fans would be fine with this trade. It's better for the future, and that's about all we have to hope for.
I'm an Atlanta resident and have had the opportunity to see Escobar play often. He has been OUTSTANDING. He has incredible baseball instincts and plays well beyond his years. He's excellent at working pitchers, solid defensively with a plus arm and very good speed.
I would hate to lose him but the Reds, and their fans, will love him.
I think you take this deal and roll the dice. What would you do John?
If you can get Escobar, then its a trade the Reds should consider. If its just Arroyo for Reyese, then the Reds should not even consider it.
i've got a half dozen college guys.... huge braves fans in my basement getting ready to go the ballpark. th euphoria over texeira and dotel fell thru the floor when i mentioned reyes and escobar for arroyo. they said the braves are nuts. they love escobar.
No way would I be happy with the trade if it's only for Reyes, but if Escobar is included that's a different story altogether.
escobar's on base #'s are very impresive for a kid his age
this would clean the braves of prospects. however... cox and schuerholz ready to retire within atwo years. natural instinct is to totally roll the dice. future is now in atlanta.
Reyes and Escobar... That is a trade that we would have to do!!!!
but for just one of them, I would not like it.
I can't believe that there hasn't been any action on Conine or Hatteberg.
Do not ever trade for pitching from the Braves. Do the names Rob Bell, Bubba Nelson, Chad Fox, Jung Keun Bong and Matt Belisle mean anything to us? In return, we gave up Mike Remlinger, Chris Reitsma, Kent Mercker, Ray King and Bret Boone.
Escobar, Reyes and another prospect for Arroyo would be pleasing. Arroyo has a team-friendly contract so we should receive a lot more than you'd see for Dunn because there is no guarantee of another team keeping him. The question is, where does Escobar play? We are loaded in the IF, is Gonzalez now on the move? How about Phillips in CF? With his athleticism, he could be outstanding.
Remember, this is non-waiver deadline. Those guys could pass through waivers. Conine was traded for Aug. 27 of last year.
Jim H. raised some good questions. Where would we play Escobar? Is Gonzalez on the block?
That was the question with Phillips. Escobar could play third, with Encarnacion going to first. Of course, in 33 minutes, all of this talk may not matter a bit.
Just imagine what we could have gotten for Arroyo at only $4 million a year instead of the $12 million he is at now.
Way to go Wayne!
You have to take this deal though, Cueto is 4-1 with a 2.23 ERA at Chattanooga with 43 k's and only 7 walks in 36.1 innings. His WHIP is also a ridiculous 0.91
As a Braves fan and living in ATL, I love the thought of getting Arroyo. I always liked him and hes cheap for this year at least. But, dear God dont give up escobar! He is freakin electric! Awesome ballplayer...And if we lose Renteria to trade or after next year...what then? You reds fans would really like THORMAN I THINK. Now theres a ballplayer...This guy woodward we have is just awesome too. Much better than Escobar. In fact arroyo for thorman and woodward is what you should be asking for
This would be a HORRIBLE move! The Reds are far from contending for the NL Central. They could do it next year if they're smart. Trading a quality starter puts us back another 2-3 years. No way!
As a Braves fan, I HOPE TO GOD we don't make this trade. If we do, you guys will have aquired an All-Star shortstop in the Rafeal Furcal mold. This is a five tool guy, and if he were to be traded to the Reds, the Braves would be STUPID not to ask for Arroyo AND a top prospect. Forget about JoJo.
Irish fan, it's a little early to be hitting the sauce. Arroyo is the future - he's signed through 2010. Why get rid of him for a guy who MIGHT someday do what he's doing now? And like anon 2:13 says: trade with the Braves at your own risk.
How many infielders do we need? The only way I make this deal is if we get pitching or a young catcher who can hit, and the Braves just traded that guy to Texas.
The Angels didn't do anything. That would have been the place for Dunn.
Why would you want to move Encarnacion to 1st? If he's moved anywhere it should be to the bench or to another team. He's terrible! After Dunn, Krivski should have been trying to move Encarnacion! And bronson should stay. The Reds need to build a pitching staff, not dismantle it!
Saarloos starting for the bats tonight.
When will the reds call Homer Bailey back up.
Escobar is a talented player. I bet that at this moment many teams teams are eager to have him in their rosters. He is growing as a player day by day and in a very near future he will be a star.
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