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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Monday, August 20, 2007

Braves 14, Reds 4

Sounds like the Phil Dumatrait Experiment may be over for 2007. Pete Mackanin said he was going to talk to Wayne Krivsky after the game. A move is likely coming.

"(Dumatrait) may not be ready for this level," Mackanin said.

Dumatrait's ERA 14.18 after four starts. He's given up 27 hits in 13 1/3 innings. I don't know who they'll put in the rotation. But if you heard us on radio, Jeff Brantley's vote is for Johnny Cueto.

Also, I would not be surprised to see Eddie Guardado back on the DL. Running him out there -- 4 innings, 12 hits, 10 runs in five games -- does him no good.


at 11:09 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will we see Belisle back up with the Reds?

at 11:38 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Outside of Harang and Weathers the entire pitching staff has been an experiment of the Dr. Frankenstein proportions. They have had zero luck with the young guns this year. I like Cueto more than Bailey but bringing him up feels like a train wreck.

Let's get Bruce and Votto up here first. Good grief!

John, do you have any feel for what we will happen September 1st?

at 11:39 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dumatrait, 3 years, $27 million and
Guardado, 5 years, 30 million, seems about right for these jokers.
I mean seriously, was anyone (aside from Krivsky and Mackanin) surprised by Dumatrait's performance tonight? Guardado, Gosling, Belisle, the Lizard, ... how many more times do we have to see these jokers this year? The definition of "insanity" is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.

Been there, done that.

at 11:41 PM Blogger Marie830 said...

This may sound crazy, but I think Saarloos will get the call. He's been starting in AAA, and doing much better in that role.

at 12:25 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

DUmtrait is not ready for the majors yet. Eddie might be done but i've read that you don't fully get your control back untill the second year after tommy john sugery. Cueto is a question mark. I want to see him at AAA a little longer. I wanna see VOtto up in the majors see if he can hit in the bigs pick up hatteburgs extention so votto can learn from him.

at 12:34 AM Blogger Grizzlyfox said...

Besides Maloney, Cueto, and Belisle, are there any other options to throw in the rotation? Or do you think they call up a guy to throw long relief and give the start to Gosling. My money's on Belisle, but I hope its Maloney or Cueto.

at 3:33 AM Blogger Redsheart said...

Dear Krivsky,

Don't give us such a crazy bullpen and minor leaguer anymore.

I like eddie's personality, but hate to see his pitching in the winning game...

at 4:42 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

any chance of Maloney pitching. seen him pitch his stuff looks nasty. what could it hurt.

at 8:24 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

If these stats are correct then Maloney has a 13:1 k-to-bb ratio - that has got to merit some kind of consideration no matter who he's pitching against. That seems pretty impressive to me why don't we check him out?

at 9:29 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

John, As the local beat writer for the Reds, how could you not have voted for Aaron Harang for the Cy Young last year?

at 9:47 AM Blogger eric said...

So lets see...we complain about the pitching rotation, "Bring up Homer Bailey! Bring up Phil Dumatrait! They are tearing it up in AAA!" Then they come up, pitch mediocre at best, and we say, "Get these guys out of here, they're not ready yet. Why were they called up? Are we trying to ruin their careers?"

Please, people. The more Krivsky calls up players from AAA, the more he is turning the Reds into a AAA team.

The Reds have two major league starters, and that is all. The problem will not be solved by calling up more minor leaguers. The problem will be solved by signing proven pitchers - heck, even Kyle Lohse had a much better chance at winning a game than Belisle, Saarloos, Dumatrait, Ramirez, Livingston, and Bailey combined. Livingston could be a 5th starter (maybe), but no one else belongs in the majors.

So yes, lets invest in future, and keep stockpiling prospects. But call them up when the time is right for them, not when there is a need for a 3rd, 4th, and 5th starter. Lets put people on the mound that have a decent chance at winning the game.

at 9:56 AM Anonymous schlemmer said...

I don't think the Reds are any worse off for giving Dumatrait an opportunity to learn in the majors. Now is the time to pull the plug before the kids confidence is permanently shot.

I far more bothered by, at this point in the season, pitching Guardado and Stanton (unless the Reds are hoping he shows enough that another team would trade for him, yeah right).

Along with Harang and Weathers, I like what I see in Arroyo, Burton, Bray, and yes, even Majewski of late.

I'd like to see Livingston and Ramirez continue starting.

I'd be careful with Cueto and Bailey.

John, please remind us of what happened, is happening, to Bailey.

at 10:14 AM Blogger John Fay said...

I think fams would love to see Cueto or Maloney. But the Reds have not brought a pitcher straight from AA to bigs under Krivksy, as far as I can remember.

at 10:20 AM Blogger John Fay said...

Third. Webb's and Carpenter's numbers were better. I think what hurt Harang was Hoffman got a lot of votes.

at 10:45 AM Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

LOL, Dumatrait is 26 years old. Now or never. Yesterday Eddie is finished. Krivsky and the Reds have managed to ruin another phenom (Homer Bailey). Why was the fact that he (Bailey) got fed up and went home to Texas(I don't blame him a bit) not covered by the media? Johnny Cueto demoted to AA to make room for Saarloos and Belisle. Coutlangis sent out in favor of Gosling. Why not give Mike Stanton a start? Makes about as much sense. If I were an agent, I would not let a young prospect anywhere near the insanity of the Cincinnati Reds' general manager.

at 11:39 AM Anonymous Justin Fernandez said...

Signing proven pitchers? LOL. Good one! FROM WHAT PLANET?

at 1:48 PM Blogger Mark T said...

I look at a young man like Dumatrait and think of the years of hard work he has put into his dream. It's not working out at this point, so I hope he goes back down to AAA with an attitude that he simply has to get better to survive. Otherwise, I'll be the first to welcome him into the work force.

at 2:58 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares what Brantley thinks,you are all a bunch of cry babies.The big red machine is gone and never to return.Get used to it.

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