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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Saturday, August 18, 2007

Brewers 8, Reds 4

This loss was remarkably similar to other one on the road trip. It was a close game until Mike Stanton entered the equation.

He gave up a three-run, two-out home run to Geoff Jenkins that made it 6-1.

“That was the ball game,” Stanton said. “If I do my job and get Jenkins out, I don't think there's any doubt we win that ball game.”

The Reds were not good offensively. They left 13 runners on base.

But, as Stanton said, this was a winnable game. In his previous outing, Stanton gave up four runs without retiring a batter. Since coming off the disabled list on July 4, Stanton’s ERA is 8.15.

“It's one of those runs – not to make any excuses because there are none,” Stanton said. “If I make a good pitch, they foul it off. They’re just not missing mistakes . . . it's just a shame.”

With Stanton and Eddie Guardado both struggling, middle relief is a major problem right now. With good young arms like Marcus McBeth and Brad Salmon at Triple-A, you wonder how long the Reds will stick with the current bullpen makeup.


11 Comments:

at 11:58 PM Blogger Dan H said...

John, I did not see the game but is there anything physically wrong with Stanton and Guardado or is is just lack of location or velocity? Stanton's contract makes it tough to cut ties with him. You would think Krivsky has learned a lesson and not offer 2 year contracts to guys who are at the end of their careers.

 
at 12:08 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its apparent that he cant get a the job done. I understand that he has about three million coming to him next year but i dont care. He is horrible and he cost the reds games. I wouldnt care one bit if he was released tomarro but just get him off the roster.

 
at 12:38 AM Blogger Wes said...

Somebody please tell me Mike Stanton is going to be DFA'd. Please?

 
at 1:59 AM Anonymous redifil said...

Wes,
I'll volunteer: Mike Stanton is going to be DFA'd.
Probably won't happen, but maybe you — and Reds fans everywhere — fell better now.

 
at 2:10 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stanton is now the prime exhibit of why i cringe every time they go out and sign these rag-tag over the hill relief pitchers. Weathers has panned out, Mercker was okay, but for every one of them it seems like there's 3 clowns named stanton, cormier, and stone. By the way, I know he got knocked around when they sent him down (probably dispirited) but nice move sending out jon coutlangus!

 
at 4:02 AM Anonymous Phill said...

Why would we DFA him? We gotta have pitchers who know how to lose games.....



Frankly the only way for young arms to become experienced is to let them play. When you have guys who are much much much older and not doing their job repeatedly it makes you wonder how the team in the bullpen can move forward. I don't know what to do about Stanton at this point. You have him for another year or you have to eat yet another failed bullpenner's contract. Then again next year he could pull around and be his normal 3 something ERA self.

I think the main problem is that it seems that Krivsky is intent on this team being able to win the division before the season ends. While it may technically be possible it is very improbable and mostly foolish to think like that. There's only 2 guys in the bullpen that Pete can trust right now being Burton and Weathers although Bray has been doing well and may become a third go-to guy. Eddie's return has been pretty dissapointing but then again if he gets resigned and gets back on top of things having him and Weathers at the end of the game with guys like Burton or Coutlangus and Bray to be in the mix as well things could be much more concrete.

There's some positives in that bullpen right now that point to good things in the future but there's also a good deal of fat trimming needing to be done. Just my long two cents worth.

 
at 4:24 AM Blogger Malt Man said...

John Fay wrote:

Since coming off the disabled list on July 4, Stanton’s ERA is 8.15.
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His ERA since July 4 is 8.15: that’s 16 ER over 17.2 IP, over a span of 20 appearances. But breaking it down game by game:

3 games (7/17, 8/16 & 18) he allowed 3 or more runs (1.2 IP)

5 games (7/13, 14, 22, 24 & 8/4) he allowed 1 run (5 IP)

12 games he didn’t allow any runs (11 IP)

So, 17 decent outings (16 IP, 5 ER, and a 2.81 ERA) and 3 bad ones (1.2 IP, 11 ER, and a 59.4 ERA) cause the bulk of the damage.

The Reds record was 1-2 (bad), and 9-8 (decent).

Just my opinion, but he really hasn’t been as horrible as you’re implying he is. I think he’s still more than capable of getting the job done.

 
at 8:02 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

When have stanton and Guardado not struggled? too funny

Fast Eddie is finished.. was so even before he was injured

 
at 12:30 PM Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

Is there anyone at all who is not convinced that Mike Stanton and Everyday Eddie are finished (except for Wrecker Wayne)? A little inside info for Mr K: John Franco is looking to pitch, but he wants a 3 year deal, could be a bargain!

 
at 1:44 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

why is stanton still here ??

if the reds braintrust (?) insists on keeping him on the team,...at least they could keep him on the bench.

or if the must play him,..put him in at shortstop ,..where he would do less damage than pitching!!

i doubt that he can bend over to catch any grounders but his wide body would cover a lot of real estate

 
at 1:45 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

why is stanton still here ??

if the reds braintrust (?) insists on keeping him on the team,...at least they could keep him on the bench.

or if the must play him,..put him in at shortstop ,..where he would do less damage than pitching!!

i doubt that he can bend over to catch any grounders but his wide body would cover a lot of real estate

 
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