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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Friday, January 11, 2008

Reds hire Jocketty

The Reds have hired Walt Jocketty as a special advisor to President and CEO Bob Castellini. Wayne Krivsky stays as GM.

Krivsky and Jocketty will be on conference call at 3:30 p.m. More details then.

OK, here's some of what was said in the conference call:

Krivsky: "I'm still the GM. I still report to Bob. Everyone under me still reports to me. Nothing's changed in that regard."

"We're just adding another experienced baseball man. Walt and I have followed similar career paths. He's been a GM a lot longer and had more success than me. It's another set of eyes and ears. We believe in the same things: That you build a club through scouting and player development."

"Nobody has all the answers. I certainly don't. Walt will be part of the discussion. I'll be talking to Walt a lot. We'll work through things and take it to Bob."

Jocketty: "We should be fine. I report to Bob. Basically, I'll be involved in every aspect, working with Wayne. I think Wayne's done a great job in the two years."

"I know the pressure and the commitment of being a GM. Quite honestly, I didn't know if I was ready to step back into that job."

Jocketty said he had offers from other clubs. Three factors led him to take the job with the Red: His relationship with Castellini; the fact that he was reporting directly to the owner; and the St. Louis is close enough that he can keep his residence there (He has a son who's a junior in high school and daughter who's a junior in college).

"I like this role. It was important that I got back in the game because the longer you stay out the harder it is to get back in."

"This club should be in a position to be competitive and stay competitive for a number of years. . . the ultimate goal is get the Reds in World Series."


Here's the release from the Reds:

The Cincinnati Reds today announced that Walt Jocketty, former Senior Vice President and General Manager of the St. Louis Cardinals, has joined the organization as Special Advisor to President and Chief Executive Officer Bob Castellini.

Jocketty will advise and assist Castellini in every facet of baseball operations, including matters related to the front office, Major League field and support personnel, scouting and minor league and international operations along with training and medical services.

"We are fortunate to be able to add to our baseball department someone who has had as much success in the game as Walt. Clearly, he is a proven winner and his experience will be invaluable to me and to our entire organization," Castellini said. "He wants to keep his hand in baseball this season. When you have the chance to hire someone with his credentials, you have to take advantage of that opportunity. We're doing everything we can to improve our franchise."

A 33-year veteran of professional baseball, including the last 13 with St. Louis as general manager, Jocketty's Cardinals teams went to the playoffs seven times. He won the National League Central Division six times and the 2001 NL Wild Card while earning two National League championships and the 2006 World Series title. The Cardinals have produced winning seasons in seven of the last eight years.

While general manager in St. Louis, Jocketty was named Major League Baseball's Executive of the Year by The Sporting News in 2000 and 2004 and by Baseball America in 2000. In 2004, he also received the Rube Foster Legacy Award from the Negro Hall of Fame as National League Executive of the Year.

Jocketty said, "I look forward to the challenge of helping Bob and the entire Reds organization continue to develop a plan to build a consistent and winning baseball team in Cincinnati."


65 Comments:

at 3:23 PM Blogger Donkey Dizzle 4's said...

Not only do we get a good baseball guy, but we get to take away from THE CARDINALS! WOO!!

 
at 3:37 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now I am excited and enthusiastic.

The reds really have not done anything this past offseason except for getting a closer. Everyones overzealousness was not reflective with what had actually been accomplished.

With Walt ..many issues can be fixed and new direction provided.. 1st class

I liken this to Mike Brown hiring a good general manager that actually knows football

I wold imagine Wayne will not be around after this year.. Thank God

Jack in Blue Ash

 
at 3:41 PM Anonymous Red at the Beach said...

Well, I guess my comments in the last blog are now eerily prescient.

The writing is on the wall for you, Mr. WK. Fwiw, this is where being such a tight lipped jerk will hurt him -- as he appears to have made no buddies in the Reds press core, he now has no one to defend him on that level as a personal friend.

If you just go on baseball moves, he has done ok in terms of building organizational depth but that certainly has not yet translated to more wins.

This is WK's make or break year, and I bet he knows it.

Who knows, John, maybe he even becomes less surly to you guys. Either way, if the Reds don't play better than .500 ball, nobody in Cincinnati will care what WK has to say b/c he won't be employed here any longer...

 
at 3:41 PM Blogger JimmyD said...

What does this mean for Krivsky? Sounds like there's a new sheriff in town.

 
at 3:41 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

krivsky you better hope these guys are in the post season hunt at the all star break, because your replacement has already been hired

 
at 3:47 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will this cause some movement on the Bedard front?

Is Walt being brought in as an in house replacement for Wayne?

 
at 3:49 PM Blogger REddlegg in Colorado said...

That is awesome,someone up top cares about winning!!!Good job BC.Now give MB a call and remind him that he needs to hire a proven GM.

 
at 3:55 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

John,

Should we interpret anything here with respect to the safety of Wayne Krivsky's job? I know Castellini and Jocketty have a friendship, but it seems like this is making a statement.

Brad

 
at 3:57 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

YES!!!!!!!!!!

Oh wait, this is a stupid move because I hate my life and the Reds will never win anyways.

NOOOOO!!!!!!

 
at 3:58 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh great, now Wayne will never get any credit from here on out, unless something goes wrong. Tight spot.

 
at 3:59 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone else think that this may be something like the Parcells hiring in Miami? Jocketty is not going to be the GM this year and may never be. I do like this hire though, whatever it means, even though I am a Krivsky fan. I do hope that he makes in impression on this franchise.s

 
at 3:59 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good move! Looks like management really does want to win this year. Go Reds!

 
at 4:04 PM Anonymous Justin007000 said...

I am against this move. It will create disunity in the front office. Krivksy will always be looking over his shoulder. Plus I feel like hire Jocketty is a bit redundant. Jocketty has a fetish for older players, remember that time he traded Danny Harren for Mark Mulder? He is sabermetric. He is old school much like Krivsky. It isn't like this will be adding new idea's to the front office. I think Krivsky is a solid GM. He got Hamilton, Phillips, Burton and Hatteberg for next to nothing. He got Arroyo for Pena, who hasn't done much since the trade. He has made mistakes, like the Majewski trade, and letting Brendan Harris go, and trading Germano away. But all in all, I think he has had a positive impact on the team. He has developed the talent that O'Brien drafted. Bailey and Cueto probably wouldn't be close to major league ready under O'Brien because of his tandem pitching program. Plus the offense struggled because they weren't allowed to swing at the first pitch. Krivksy seems to be the happy medium between Bowden and O'Brien.

He also locked up the teams top two starting pitchers, in an era that pitching is hard to find and expensive, for a below market deal.

 
at 4:08 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Uh-ohhhh...writing is on the wall for Wayne Krivsky!

 
at 4:21 PM Anonymous Ryan D. said...

For all the blame they get O'Brien and Krivsky have put together a solid core that is easily the best team this organization has fielded since '95. They have brought life into the corpse Bowden left. And why should Wayne or Marvin announce to the media their personell plans? At your job do you tell the media how you plan to take your competitor's market share?

Ryan D.

 
at 4:32 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Justin..please..

please review what Wayne has done in his entirety ..Stanton Cormier etc ..then re comment

Red at the Beach good post

Ryan.. what life the Reds were a disaster last year.

Jack in Blue Ash

 
at 4:33 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

The way I see this is that Bob has hired himself an umpire, temporarily. It prevents Kvrisky from doing some dumb ass deal in the hopes of continuing employment. Wayne tells Bob "this is what I want to do." Bob asks Walt "does this make sense?" Walt says no, and the deal isn't done.

Terrible position for Kvrisky. Every decision just isn't second guessed by the fans, but by Walt.

I'd quit. But that is just me.

 
at 4:42 PM Blogger HoosierRedsFan said...

John, do you think this will affect Bob's friendship with Bill DeWitt? Dewitt said earlier last year that Bob would never hire Jocketty without talking to him first.

 
at 4:44 PM Blogger Joseph said...

Now that Walt Jocketty is on board, I'm sure he and Krivsky can work together to hammer out the following trade.

The Vatican gets: Ryan Freel.
The Reds get: Papal vestements, secret religious texts, naming rights to Vatican City.

The naming rights will be the real sleeper in this trade. At first blush it seems like a throw-in. "Why would the Reds ever excercise the naming rights to Vatican City? What would they call the place?" The value will be uncovered when they sell the rights for a pot of money big enough to sign any four starters you want to name.

The big drawback is for the press, who will be stuck with the dateline "PHILLIP MORRIS CO. VATICAN CITY, Rome --"

 
at 5:01 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Wayne has made some good moves and is unfairly criticized for some of his bad moves (the majewski trade) I feel like Wayne has put the organization on the right track to have a successful future. He realizes the way to build a team is by building up through the farm system (bruce, votto, bailey, cueto, maloney etc.) and making smart free agent decisions. Some of his moves have worked beautifully (phillips, burton, arroyo, hamilton) some have not (stanton, cormier, etc), but show me a GM who has not made some questionable moves. I think people need to realize is that it takes time to build a winner, and sacrificing your future to try and win now is not the best choice. trading away bruce, votto, bailey and cueto for bedard is not the right choice. bedard could walk after 2 years and the farm system would be in shambles. I think Wayne has tried to model the reds a little bit after the Twins, who despite being a small market team, have had a pretty good track record the last couple of years.

 
at 5:21 PM Blogger Jake said...

Some people on here are never going to be happy.I am a supporter of Wayne Krivsky.I think he has helped turn the club in the right direction. He is not perfect.That said,who cares if Krivsky has another person to run ideas by.This move will only make us better.Jocketty is as good a baseball man as you can get.His record speaks volumes.

Krivsky will continue to shape this organization.None of us are 100% safe with our jobs.This move makes sense any way you look at it.

 
at 5:32 PM Blogger Haystacks Calhoun said...

A great hire....without question or reservation. Bob has hired on now two great people in Baker and Jocketty.

Who cares if Krivsky is looking over his shoulder. With another proven winner in the fold, it can do nothing but help....

There is no question, in my mind, that Wayne has markedly improved this team. And, to be honest, I don't think that Jocketty wants a full time GM job. This job suits him, and the Reds, perfectly.

 
at 5:47 PM Blogger Aaron said...

Interesting, VERY interesting.

This could be the pre-cursor to a blockbuster. Why? Because it shields Krivsky from critical attack because now presumably it will be checked off by Castellini with Jockety's approval. I think something big is in the air and Castellini felt like he needed a personal advisor before he signs off.

Or maybe they just grabbed Jockety while he was available before someone else could, and they just want to keep him around in case Krivsky falls on his face this year.

either way it is an interesting move.

 
at 5:51 PM Blogger Al in Ohio said...

Man! I envy you guys the access you have to the Reds front office! Here I was, thinking that Castellini had hired Jocketty as an advisor, and maybe to potentially take over Club President duties, but you guys got the inside scoop that he was REALLY hired to take Krivsky's job after next year! That's awesome, that the Reds share plans with their fans like that!

Hey, did Bob promise Walt that he'd give him the same level of payroll money that Jocketty had every year in St. Louis, since except for Albert Pujols, none of their stars are homegrown? Can one of you give him a call and ask him??

 
at 5:54 PM Anonymous Maverick said...

Could it be Justin007000 = Justin Fernandez??

He's baaaacckk.

 
at 6:00 PM Anonymous Kramer1 said...

When was the last time the Reds made the playoffs (RHETORICAL)? How long are we going to be "building for the future?"

By the way, the Washington Nationals won more games than the Reds last season.

 
at 6:18 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

NEW RED MACHINE here we come! I am so happy and proud today to be a CINCINNATI REDS FAN!!!!

-John C.
Las Vegas

 
at 6:20 PM Blogger Aaron said...

Al, it is highly unusual to have two GMs on the payroll at the same time. Jockety might be coming off a disappointing season but one glance at his resume tells you he is more than a special advisor. He could find a GM job somewhere if he wanted to, and maybe he is content to get in line in Cincinnati because he has history with Bob.

Krivsky is nearing the end of his contract. I don't think it is much of a leap in logic to assume if significant improvement doesn't occur he is probably gone.

My hunch is that Castellini is securing Jockety now because that is his choice as a replacement --if necessary-- and he doesn't want to have to scramble for a GM next year if this team disappoints.

To confirm all of this I have consulted both the i-ching and my ouija board and they concur.

 
at 6:36 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

GREAT MOVE,I'm thrilled we have a real man! Good Bye to WK,thank goodness!!!YES YES YES WAKE UP CINCY FIRE KRIVSKY
The arrogant & inept WK now gets what he deserves---FIRED!!

 
at 7:04 PM Blogger John Fay said...

Actually, it's not that unusual to have a former GM on the payroll. The Reds already had Bill Wood on the staff. Jack NcKeon came here as a special assistant after being a GM. What's different about this Jocketty reports to the owner.

 
at 7:27 PM Anonymous redsfanwoody said...

I got to agree with Al in Ohio,
I believe its a simple move to add a guy with 33 years of baseball knowledge to the staff. I don't for see this as Castellini trying to oust Wayne. Bt as the same with the rest of you, I am just guessing.

As someone mentioned between O'Brien and Krivsky the farm system has made may strides. All you have to do is look back a few years and se what said about the system. So why throw it away and start with a new plan of attack?
Woody

 
at 7:28 PM Anonymous redfuture said...

Jocketty, bocketty. Walt is not immune from BAD baseball decisions either. He traded Haren, Daric Barton and Kiko Colero to Oakland for Mulder. Mulder gave them only one good year and that's it. Please, please, Walt don't influence the Reds to make the same mistake with Bedard for Bailey, Cueto & Votto!!

 
at 7:53 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey John-

Have you heard the terms of the Jocketty deal? Do you know how many years it's for? Have you heard Dusty Baker and the players responses?

-John C.
Las Vegas

 
at 7:55 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey guys- I don't understand all this hating on Wayne Krivsky. The guy is tight-lipped but he sure has put this team in a better position for the first time in 7 seasons. BTW, if he goes to another organization, such as the Mets, he will haunt us.

 
at 7:59 PM Blogger Dan H said...

John,
With both Jocketty and Krivsky both reporting to Castellini, who is higher on the "pecking order" Krivsky or Jocketty? For example, if Jocketty says pull the trigger on a Bedard for Cueto,Bailey,and Encarnacion and Krivsky says "don't do it Bob", who will Castellini listen to? Almost sounds like a "co-general manager" situation.

 
at 8:06 PM Blogger John Fay said...

Don't know the terms on Jocketty.

In Dan's example, Castellini makes the final call. He pays close to attention to the game.

 
at 8:32 PM Blogger Kelly said...

WTH I have never seen a bigger bunch of tools in my life, especially those hiding behind anonymous. Glad you are happy and all have the inside scoop on what is really happening inside the Reds......Wayne has done nothing wrong....just because he is not one of your good old boys drinking moonshine and chasing the toothless gals down by the still while telling you what you want to hear you don't like him......get some baseball sense/balls or go root for your beloved Bengals or watch the Kentucky blue grass grow.....oh that's right you don't like Gillespie either.....Tools! I am embarrassed to be a Reds fan.....

 
at 9:30 PM Blogger HoosierRedsFan said...

John, have you heard anything concerning DeWitt and Bob? Did he talk with DeWitt regarding hiring Jocketty? Is this going to affect their friendship?

 
at 9:37 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why can't this be seen as something as simple as the hiring of a professional, highly-qualified baseball executive with an extra set of eyes and ears to help Castellini and Krivsky make the tough decisions necessary to turn this club into a perennial winner? The Reds are on the right track, and Krivsky has done a fine job stabilizing the on-field operations from the lowest levels on up. The organization was a mess under the previous ownership, and Castellini, Krivsky, et al have rebuilt the foundation. Why the rush to dump Wayne? He is the anti-Bowden and anti-O'Brien at the same time. He's a straight-talking, high-character GM and deserves the right to remain and enjoy the fruits of his hard work.

ajaxonford

 
at 9:47 PM Blogger John Fay said...

Castellini said he spoke to DeWitt. There's no problem.

 
at 11:13 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

It appears Krivsky's failure to get a first line starter such as Bedard is opening the door for his possible exit.

 
at 12:07 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

why do people complain about anonymous posters, who friggin cares, its not like I all the sudden know you from your screen name, your pretty hidden too

 
at 12:47 AM Blogger Dave from Louisville said...

Castellini's a smart businessman, I think this has more to do with Jocketty's knowledge of the NL rather than a reflection on Krivsky's performance. Krivksy has shown to be an awesome negotiator(look at Harang and Arroyo), and has been able to fleece AL teams of undervalued talent(Phillips, Hamilton, Buirton, Arroyo)...what's not to love? I realizine to your average Reds fan, you see 7 straight losng seasons and you think things are not changing........but when is the last time we have had this ridiculous amount of young talent???

This idea that you need one person to make all of the shots is ridiculous. Corporate desicions are typically made by a Board of directors, why should baseball be any different??

 
at 7:45 AM Blogger Mr. Redlegs said...

I believe there is a complete overreaction to Jocketty's hiring. For one thing, most professional sports teams have "special advisors." For another, they are essentially invisible part-time employees until asked for their input.

There's also the point of Jocketty remaining in St. Louis while his daughter is still in high school for another year and a half. There's also the issue that Krivsky has done NOTHING to jeopardize his job.

The baseball ops are in 100 percent better condition than the day Krivsky took over less than two years ago.

And for yet another, the Reds lost John Allen as team president, with his duties absorbed by the front office, namely Castellini's son, who has no experience in that role. The team president has a lot of MLB matters on his plate, plus the REds are seeking a new spring training home, so the presence of Jocketty, when needed, is merely to give the organization a badly needed experienced hand on matters across baseball parameters.

Does this mean Krivsky is free and clear? No. Does this mean he'll be looking over his shoulder? Yes. Does this mean he's under pressure to make big deals?

Are you really serious?

Remember: Jocketty is an "advisor" and he won't be involved in the day-to-day operations. But until Jocketty is willing to move to Cincinnati or says he's ready to work full time again, remember this simple word before you start slobbering for Krivsky's neck in a noose:

ad-vi-zer

 
at 8:44 AM Blogger Kelly said...

The reason to complain about anonymous posters is that we can't see a pattern to your "logic" or lack there of......could be one of you or all different.

 
at 9:38 AM Anonymous anti-media said...

Dave: Whats not to like? Look at our record!!
The Nats won more games...look who he signed for the B-pen !!We were a joke last year,until it didn't matter.His arrogant approach to failure indicates to me he is in WAY over his head!! WAKE UP CINCY FIRE KRIVSKY

 
at 9:39 AM Blogger jdeezman said...

I think it's absolutely hilarious to read all these different comments.
First you have the WK haters, who will slam ANY decision he makes.
Then you have the Reds homers, who will say that WK is the second coming, and can/will do no wrong.
Then you have the dreamers, wondering why threre weren't any takers on the (injured) Ryan Freel for Santana/Bedard/Haren/Koufax proposal.

After all, Ryan Freel is obviously the next Charlie Hustle... right?

If we got Santana through some miracle, we'd have people on here griping about him being "paast hiss prime and on the downside of his career".

This is better than Comedy Central. That's why I always tell you to chill out Al in Ohio. Enjoy this entertainment, and quit being so critical... you'd have to pay big money for laughs like this on the outside world.

Ladies and Gents... putting together a team of baseball knowledgeable people is the best way to turn a loser into a winner. Now howsabout we give these people a chance to do just that?

 
at 9:43 AM Blogger Jason said...

A couple things. First, I applaud the hiring of Jocketty. He's smart baseball guy. However, "redsfuture" raises a good point about the Haren deal to Oakland for Mark Mulder. How bad would it look to trade for a Bedard, Blanton or even a Cliff Lee and then have them go down with a serious arm injury? Second, we fans all need to remember that Jocketty is just and adviser to the owner. He is not the GM, therefore he has no authority to go out on his own and cultivate trades; per Dan's question. Plus, Jocketty says he's not sure if he's ready to be a GM right now. If anything, Jocketty might be able to calm Mr. Castellini from making a knee-jerk firing of Krivsky because Jocketty knows how hard it is to build a successful ballclub.
Bottom line, this should be a great move. By all reports last year out of St. Louis, Jocketty was not happy with the organizational direction of the franchise. He now has that situation.

 
at 9:44 AM Blogger mrtonyb40 said...

good hire! excellent baseball guy.just another sign the teams on the right course for the long run.just hope everybody gets along.

 
at 9:46 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The best way to make sure that a job is done poorly is to assign two people to do it." This is a management mantra that Castellini no doubt knows very well. Hence, Jockety is not here to be another GM (at least not yet). I like Dave from Louisville's suggestion that Jockety is here to contribute his knowledge of the NL.

I'm very surprised and amused with posters who keep saying that the 'only' improvement the Reds have made this this offseason is acquire a closer. Four reasons:

First, acquiring a solid closer is a huge improvement for a team with little relief depth. Cordero will take up 1/7 of our salary next year.
Second, we also traded Hamilton for Volquez. Volquez's value may be in question, but no one on this blog has ever seen him pitch so you can't complain about him too much. Hamilton's value also had question marks due to questions about how injury-prone he will be.
Third, we're a very young team. Performance peaks between 27-33 years old. Half of our team was under 27 last year (still improving) and only four players were over 32 (Griffey, Hatty, Stanton, Weathers).
Fourth, the offseason is only half over. There's plenty of time left to make a move before the season starts. Chill out people.

- Tim

 
at 10:25 AM Blogger Gene in WV said...

I am just shocked many fans take the negative side of this hiring! Shocked, I tell you!!

Someone is going to get the axe! Yes!! What a greart day!

 
at 10:48 AM Anonymous Mike said...

Love the move.

Guys... a new Reds blog has started.... CHECK IT OUT!

http://letstalkreds.blogspot.com/

 
at 11:08 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

If WK was competent he would have been a GM long ago...and would move on now!He has a miserable record of failure!Bob C. has brought me back to the park,I will buy tickets this year!Best move in many years...WAKE UP CINCY FIRE KRIVSKY

 
at 11:37 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is laughable to say Krisky is a bad GM. Without his moves to Reds win maybe 56 games last year. Sure Bowden got him good, but we traded bad players for bad players except the bad players we got were better than what we gave away.

Is Krisky the best GM ever? Probably not. But I will say he has turned the Reds around from top to bottom better than most of the teams in baseball (read Pirates) in a small amount of time.

I would say Krisky is in the top 1/3 of baseball GMs if you look across baseball over the last two years and see who gotten better and who got worse. And if you notice Walt J. watch saw the Cardinals slowly decline to a below .500 team the last two years and their minor leagues might have less MLB potential players than the Reds.

Adrian

 
at 11:44 AM Anonymous Brick said...

A quote from Mr. Redlegs..."For another, they are essentially invisible part-time employees until asked for their input"

In my opinion, there is no way that Castellini's paying Jocketty to be invisible until called upon.

And In my opinion there's no way that both these guys will be on the Reds' payroll by the time the 2009 season starts.

Castellini's spent a lot of money recently, looks to spend a little more and appears to want to deliver on his intentions when he bought the team. Jocketty will be more than a sounding board.

 
at 12:08 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love how all the Kriv haters, praise Bob but rant on Kriv for the supposed countless mistakes. You do realize that all moves Krivsky makes have to go through Bob first. So if you hate the moves done, blame Bob cause he's the one who signs off on the deals

 
at 12:22 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maverick, no that wasn't me.

I think Jocketty is a good addition. He seemingly played an important role with the Cards and their recent success at reaching the post-season.

Way to go Bob and Wayne!

-Justin Fernandez

 
at 12:33 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon 12:08

Bob Castellini is a business owner. He pays Wayne to make the correct baseball decisions..he relies upon his judgement and direction

Perhaps Bob feels he needs someone with better baseball judgement

The writing is on the wall if you step back and dont lose sight of the "trees in the forest"

You don't hire someone like Jockerty if you have a GM that you are satisfied with..there simply would not be the need

I dont hate WK..I do question many of his moves though and as a representative of the Reds he is very rude and condescending at times

Jack in Blue ash

 
at 1:25 PM Blogger Mr. Redlegs said...

If Jocketty was anything more than a sounding board and part-time employee with any direct authority, he would have been given a title above "special advisor."

And the rant of Krivsky being rude and condescending is pointless. Sports history is lined with hardcore jerks. Willie Mays chief among them.

Besides, Pete Rose was one of the rudest, most codescending, along with loathesome, human beings to ever walk into a dugout (ask former Post writer Michael Sokolove), yet Pete is God to way too many of you.

 
at 2:02 PM Anonymous Brick said...

Mr. Redlegs said...
If Jocketty was anything more than a sounding board and part-time employee with any direct authority, he would have been given a title above "special advisor."

What title is he suppossed to have? Co-GM? President of baseball operations? I don't think he wanted to give him any other title, leaving the door open to give him the GM tag at some point down the road.

Heck, even Krivsky said they're going to work together before presenting ideas to Castellini.

 
at 2:08 PM Blogger Mr. Redlegs said...

Uh, that's Michael Sokolov.

And add Tom Seaver to the Rudeness, Condescending and Jerks Hall of Fame.

He's among fine company.

 
at 2:15 PM Blogger Mr. Redlegs said...

Try executive vice president. . . .

Or chief operating officer.

Either of which can be parlayed into GM duties if/when necessary. There's several such titlists out there now.

 
at 2:29 PM Blogger 24/7 said...

open question:

who is the most likely to be good in 08?

bailey
volquez
cueto

who is the most likely to be ACE in 09-10

bailey
volquez
cueto

now thats what krivsky has to decide before he pulls the trigger on a big deal, in addition to what the other team wants

not an easy proposition

 
at 4:50 PM Blogger JerBear said...

Wow! Just read about the hiring of Jocketty and am surprised.

I don't really know what if anything it means for Wayne Krivsky, and I really don't have a clue as to what Jocketty will be doing...

But bringing a respected GM over from a division rival can only be good I would think.

A very positive move, but I think Reds fans as a whole are still skeptical about this year. Reds fans are so negative thse days. I can understand it to a point. It's going to take a run to the playoffs to really get the Reds back in the good graces of the casual and even die-hard fans.

Peace and Go Reds!

 
at 9:15 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr Redlegs..I dont care about other sports icons with bad personalities..Krivsky is not a player by the way..big difference
He is in administration and lacks people skills and respect

Mr Castellini tell you Jockerty was only to be a sounding board?

You know this to be a fact? Just answer yes or no by the way its a pretty straightforward question

He has been friends with Jockerty for 13 years, Walt was one of the better GMs in the league, deeply respected and highly successful. And as you can see clearly on these boards and the tone in the news,, His presence and experience clearly overshadows that of WK.

Jerbear..I also think Jockerty is a great hire. Telling the truth about the team and its record over the course of the past seven years is what it is

 
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