Williamson?
Wayne Krivsky happened to be touring Dr. Tim Kremchek's facility when right-hander Scott Williamson was throwing. So are the Reds interested?
"He looked good," Krivsky said.
He left it at that.
Wiliamson has a great arm when healthy. He still lives in the area. Stayed tuned.
posted by John Fay at 6:32 PM
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Post a Comment*Didn't we go through this debacle last year?
Isn't August and September 1999 still fresh in your minds?
Deer . . . headlights . . . Williamson.
Go with the kids.
And just when my ulcer was cured from his last time in Cincy ...
I'd say no thanks. Too much of a injury history.
Why not? Even if he bombs, the Reds wouldn't lose millions on it. Why does everybody assume if we look at a reclamation project he will end up blowing it in the bottom of ninth when games are on the line? I don't see what it would hurt to take a look at him in middle relief. The Reds could, and likely will, look at lesser pitchers in spring training.
If you can get him on a minor league deal, I see no reason not to take the chance. He's got a good arm. If he's cheap.
Once upon a time, that arm was incredible. Probably no more. However, never ignore a pitcher who knocks on your door. Risking loses in Sarasota is a chance I'm willing to take.
Give him a non-roster invite. It wouldn't cost much.
He can drive you nuts out there with the wild pitches and passed balls but still he was effective. He won the ROY in 1999. He was 12-7 with 19 saves all in relief. Put that up along side RHs Coffey, Majewski, Saarloos, Santos, Ramirez, McBeth and Stone let alone the LHs Gosling, Stanton, Bray, Guardado, Dumatrait & Cormier. He gave up 54 hits in 93 innings. Wow! He has still been effective when healthy. He still gives up fewer hits than innings.
I always thought they should play "Wild Thing" everytime he came from the bullpen.
If anyone can get someone back on their feet Dr. Tim can. Why not give him an invite? He can't be any scarier than Stanton and Coffey.
Let's please avoid yet another bullpen disaster. Thank you, sir.
What do Scott Williamson and a necktie have in common?
They both choke under pressure.
Your pet turtle has more courage.
Here's two telling stats and hopefully ends this Williamson madness:
In his career, Williamson has allowed 584 baserunners in just 439.1 innings.
He has managed to stay healthy for just 107.1 innings in the past four years.
Didn't we spend like a fortune on a closer? Williamson won't be pitching the 9th folks (or the 8th for that matter). He still throws in the low 90's and his stuff is a marked improvement over Coffey's. What would it hurt to give him a shot in middle relief? He surely isn't going to cost much. I can't see much down side here. If he sucks he gets cut, if he doesn't he helps us.
Marc in Kentucky
Keep an eye on him, check his progress, tender an offer if his arm starts to come around. What's to lose?
If he looks good in spring training, keep pitching him, let him do extended spring, and continue to monitor him. Figure on him helping best case scenario in June. The guy knows how to pitch, he had a couple great seasons.
Sometimes surgery actually works and makes guys better. Keep an open mind. I like his makeup: goes right at the hitter.
I don't recall him being as big a choker as some others do. Refresh my oldtimer's memory, please.
Desperate teams make desperate moves.
John C.
Las Vegas
Rosenthal video: Blanton trade update
a couple teams in serious talks. chances of a deal at 50-50 for a trade happening before season
Reds and possibly twins/drays possible teams
Reds- unproven staff after harang/arroyo
Twins-seek a veteran SP
Rays- have the prospects
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb
Pressure? When was the last time any Red was under real pressure? Just wait until the Reds are out of contention and then pitch Williamson, which should be sometime in early May.
That's still a 1.32 WHIP which isn't bad Mr. Redlegs. I mentioned the wild pitches and passed balls that occured while he was pitching. Williamson liked to throw that splitter into the dirt but I think Ross could block it better than Taubensee and LaRue did. That said, I'd rather see the loser of the Volquez/Cueto starting battle wind up filling that roster spot. He's a better insurance policy than Mike Lincoln!
I agree with Mr Redlegs on this..its nonsensical to even discuss Scott Williamson returning to baseball
John C in Vegas,, in the last post you were providing accolades to Dusty Baker and the Reds..now they are a desperate team?
make your mind up
So who is going to be our lead off hitter? I am not feeling to good about freel.
I've seen it in a couple different places now...the Reds are talking to Oakland about acquiring Blanton
Awright, let me try this:
Since 2004, Williamson averages about 2 2/3 outs per appearance. He's faced a whopping 422 batters, allowed a staggering 139 baserunners and needed 16.93 pitches to get through it all.
Broken down further, he's allowed 37 of 54 batters (50%) leading off an inning to reach base; he's allowed 65 of 178 (37%) batters faced to reach base with two out; he's allowed 22 of 56 (39%) batters to reach when it was two out and runners in scoring position; and 45 of 103 (44%) batters faced have reached base in close and late situations.
So if you want this guy, how can you say another disparaging word about live young arms Coffey and Majewski?
Pot . . . kettle . . . kerosene.
John C. & Anonymous,
I seriously believe this Reds team has the potential to be the best we've had in a long time. I don't think the offense is going to be as bad as most think and the pitching could be much worse (see us earlier this decade). I don't know if we'll win the Central, but, give them a chance.
I also like the overall direction of our organization. Our farm system is vastly improved under Krivsky, which is only going to help us on the Major League level. Again, just give them a chance.
Marc in Kentucky
While we are at it, what is Danny Graves up to? Would love to have the same old faces blowing saves with the new faces. Our DL Days are ">" Active Days, lets not contribute to that any more.
Seriously have not followed Williamson since he left us, but am tired of reclamation projects, especially on our achilles heal.
Eric in Atlantic Beach
redsfuture: While I am neutral on Williamson, I disagree with your assessment of Ross on pitches in the dirt. LaRue was better at blocking the ball and moving his body.
I think Ross is above average, to very good catcher but his weakness is blocking pitches, especially if they are off the plate in the dirt. He stabs at that ball
So if you want this guy, how can you say another disparaging word about live young arms Coffey and Majewski?
They all suck, Williamson included.
LaRue was phenominal at exploding out of the box to field bunts and dribblers. But horendous at blocking pitches in the dirt. He also took a pitch off here and there and let perfectly catchable pitches go by. Codero will rely on Ross to block pitches alot because he throws 'em in the dirt too. Valentin is just a horrible catcher, good hitter, but horrible catcher. The only position I've heard Dusty actually complain about so far is the catching. It'll be interesting to see what happens this spring. I'm pretty sure Dusty is referring to offense of Ross and the defense of Javy.
Don't feel good about Ryan Freel? C'mon, This is Cincinnati! Everybody feels good about Freel! He's scrappy!
I have an idea for a horror movie. It's called "Invasion of the Reds Snatchers." It starts out in the home of one of the married players. Gonzalez is married right? One morning, around the house, Mrs. Gonzalez gets the feeling something is different about her husband. Then she notices his shirt is dirty. He begins to walk, talk, and otherwise act more and more like someone else she knows, but she can't put her finger on exactly who.
Things start to get really weird one afternoon when the doorbell rings. Gonzo, instead of walking to the door to answer, leaps at the knob from twenty feet away and crashes onto the foyer floor. Chuh, chuh, chuh... Ah, ah, ah... It gets worse when he later knocks himself unconscious taking out the trash. Is that Norris Hopper walking the bags the rest of the way to the curb?
Mrs. Gonzalez shares her concerns with some of the other Reds' wives, and finds out they're all going through the same thing. Soon, all the Reds are crashing into the outfield walls, getting caught stealing bases, and turning the other teams' singles into doubles.
It's scary!
--JR
Jack
John C said nothing I wasnt thinking, it in no way hurts any argument he's posted. The reds will be decent this year, but they are also desperate, no question. This team is desperate that has nothing to do with how optimistic we are. pointing out they are desperate is just an obsevation, and I'm pretty sure we can all agree with that. This team will do anything it can to help get wins, and that includes taking random shots in the dark in the hope something works out.
reagans -
I agree I've never been impressed with ross blocking pitches, he uses his glove way, way too much. Use the body, for a def catcher he is terrible at blocking balls
Hilarious, Brad.
The redeeming quality on Majewski is his fastball has a lot of movement and he throws pretty dang hard. His problem since his shoulder problem has been location, location, location.
His command of the strike zone was his bread-n-butter in Washington, where he kept the ball down and moving. That's why the Reds wanted him, for that Wiffleball park they play in.
After Majewski's last recall last year he had some batters where he was flat out nasty. Then, inexplicably, bam, bam, bam! Velocity there, location . . . not so much. That's a sign of a pitcher regaining his arm feel.
I don't think you give up on him quite yet. If he has to go to Louisville, so be it.
As for Coffey, he's got three pitches--fastball, splitter and gopher.
Thanks NVreds for the support. I'm glad to see someone actually reads my posts. LOL. You hit the nail on the head.
John,
I've been hearing that the reds are still after Blanton. Do you know anything about this? Rosenthal is saying the reds are 1 of 2 teams showing significant interest.
redsfuture and NVReds. That being said about Ross and his blocking of pitches... think what Bob Boone could have done with him. Of course, that may have been the only thing Bob would have done, but LaRue did improve....
In fairness to Ross, he calls a great game, and plays great defense. That alone can keep you in the game...see Matheny and Ausmus.
I want to see Ross lay down the law to Homer. He let Homer shake him off too much last year. I do not think Dusty will allow that
If my memory serves me right didn't Williamson not choke in the 2003 Playoffs for the Redsoxs? He pitched in three games and got 1 win and 2 saves. Back to back to back games. Before Pedro lost it to the yanks.
Williamson is an absolute stud when healthy!
I have a inside feel that Scott is back and healthy as ever. Lets see what this season proves and hope for the best.Remember this.
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