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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Friday, April 27, 2007

Pirates 3, Reds 1 + Narron on the Dunn play

The Reds latest loss wasn't particularly ugly. No errors. No bullpen meltdown. One base-running blunder. The Pirates scored three off Eric Milton in the first and that was that.

The Reds didn't score until Adam Dunn hit one that nearly made the river in the ninth.

Speaking of Dunn, I heard his play, or lack thereof, is already a topic on Extra Innings. At the behest of the poster, I asked Jerry Narron about it after the game. (Would have done it on my own, by thanks for the suggestion) Anyway, in the fifth, Jack Wilson hit a ball into left. Wilson broke out of the box like he was going to settle for a single. Dunn chased the ball in the same manner. Wilson realized that and broke for second. He was safe for a double.

“Great hustle play by Wilson,” Narron said.

And Dunn?

“We’d all love for him to be a Gold Glove left fielder. He’s not quite there yet,” Narron said.

A lot of people would probably like to have seen Dunn benched. Two reasons not to do it are: a) Norris Hopper's not going to hit one in the river in the ninth; b) Dunn played the ball the way most left fielders do.

But the moment Narron benched, Edwin Encarnacion for not running out that ball in Arizona, he opened himself to talk about this every time there's a play like the Wilson-Dunn play.


at 11:15 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it me or has Encarnacion gone even more down hill since his benching? I understand the logic in benching him but the mark of a great manager is knowing how to influence your players in the manner that is going to help them get to where you want them to be. The benching seemed to be more of a move in "spite." I like Narron's "story" of how he got to be the mgr but I am starting to question if he is the man for the job long term. The team is flawed in its make up, yes, but I am starting to get that sinking feeling with Mr. Narron.

at 11:46 PM Blogger Chris at Redleg Nation said...

I'll swing by Marty's and pick up the Dunn effigy. Meet you at Fountain Square.

at 11:51 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

what a lousy answer. don't have to be a gold glover to hustle to a ball to hold a guy to a single. that's not playing the game right jerry and that is not how most left fielders play that ball.

at 12:03 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dunn learned his lackadaisical playing style from Griffey. And it's only a matter of time until Griffey rubs off on Hamilton the same way.

At least you can't say Griffey's given us nothing for the $90 million we've given him the past 8 years. He has given us that influence over our younger players.

at 8:08 AM Blogger Tyler said...

Thanks for the insight John, I always check your blog first thing in the morning to get insight beyond the box score!

at 10:06 AM Anonymous OldSchool said...

a) Norris Hopper's not going to hit one in the river in the ninth

But is he going to strike out three times on the way?

Dunn's actually turned up his defense this year, but that play wasn't even bush; it was beer-league.

at 1:35 PM Anonymous mike said...

I'm not one to second guess managers often (except the dreaded Bob Boone...) But does anyone else feel like with a better manager this team would have at least four more wins? Narrons has left guys in too long, taken guys out too soon, and he almost never even tries to bunt guys over. The Reds could have probably swept that Arizona series if Narron would have called for a bunt two times when he didn't.

at 5:08 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous @ 11:03PM said
"Dunn learned his lackadaisical playing style from Griffey. And it's only a matter of time until Griffey rubs off on Hamilton the same way."

Griffey is a TEN TIME gold glove winner. Dunn isn't even 5% the fielder Jr. was at 26 You don't win TEN gold gloves by playing lackadisical outfield. Jr. is just old and since he isn't juiced up like Bonds or Sosa he is slowing down like typical people.

I am not a Dunn fan but if your saying he got his "playing style" from a Ten time gold glover, they you don't know much about baseball.

at 6:49 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 4:08 - Griffey did not win any of those gold gloves since he's been with the Reds, and hence has not been a gold-glover in his time with Dunn.

And there is no denying that Griffey leaves a little to be desired in the hustle department and that he has influenced Dunn. Of course, as Dunn does not have the skills of Griffey, he cannot overcome this lack of hustle as Griffey used to be able to do.

So, Anon 11:03 is right. Even though you clearly already know everything about baseball.

at 9:36 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with Anon 4:08 Somehow everybody always blame Jr. for all the teams problems. Jr will go down in history as one of the best Centerfielder's in history.

Adam Dunn needs to step up and play the game. Blame Adam Dunn, or the MANAGER Jerry Narron. Why blame Griffey for everything.

You say "it's only a matter of time before Griffey rubs off on Hamilton."

So I guess Jr. has rubbed off on Freel then too huh.

The reason, Freel plays the game hard, Dunn plays for his paycheck. It’s their personalities. JR. has nothing to with it.

at 11:39 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...


And what was up with traffic this morning? Stupid Griffey.

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