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Thursday, May 10, 2007

Narron, Krivsky on Encarnacion move

The Reds sent Edwin Encarnacion to Triple-A Louisville Thursday and called up Jeff Keppinger.

Encarnacion was hitting .218 and led the team with six errors, two of which cost the Reds the game Wednesday. Still, it was a move the Reds didn't want to make.

"It’s disappointing," Jerry Narron said. "We were expecting him to come in here and progress from where he was a year ago. We were really expecting big things from him. It just hasn't happened yet. He’s got to go down there with the right attitude and work hard and play well and come back here and be a big part of what we’re going to do in the future."

Encarnacion took the news hard.

"Once I got his attention, I think initially, obviously, he was shocked," Wayne Krivsky "I said, ‘Look Eddie, this is your career here. You've got to work harder than you've ever worked and turn this into a positive. If you do that, you’re not going to be down there very long. If you go down there and you don’t get with the program, don’t work, you’re going to be down there a lot longer. It’s as simple as that. but you’re a big part of our future here.”

This means Ryan Freel gets the bulk of the time at third base. He took no glee in that.

"It stinks," he said. "Because Eddie can flat play. For the most part his defense has been better. He had a good year last year."


34 Comments:

at 10:41 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Encarnacion to Louisville??
What a joke!!! It's a typical
knee-jerk reaction by the Reds.
EE is not the teams' real problem.
He's being made a scapegoat.

 
at 10:58 AM Blogger KyleWest said...

I say he is back by Memorial Day. Im really concerned about our bench. We have 2 singles hitters (Hopper & Keppinger), a 40-year old with no speed (Conine), a switch hitting cather that really should only bat lefty, and a guy that is batting about .100 on the season (Valentin), but is slick-fielding (Castro).

Not much threat there.

 
at 11:01 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's about time. Now if we could just get rid of Ross.

 
at 11:02 AM Blogger HoosierRedsFan said...

EE was part of the problem. A trip to AAA might wake him up. Now for some adjustments to the bullpen. Go Reds!!!

 
at 11:11 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe some time in the bushes will do this kid some good. Seldom have I seen a player who's accomplished so little in a short career act as though some hard work and effort is beneath him. It would also be nice that he act like he cares when he makes a bonehead play.

Reds lose nothing with having Freel play third on a regular basis, and Keppinger nearly made the team out of Sarasota. It's not over yet, not in the NL Central.

 
at 11:14 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

it is about time someone realzed Encarnacion is a major fla. He cannot play defense, and his inability to do such was hidden when e was hitting. He does not run out pop ups, lacks hustle an basically needs a trip to the minors to work on his defnsive lapses and offensive catastrohe. glad Keppinger is there. Now lets boot Weathers and Stanton and move on.

 
at 11:17 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

the Reds needed Encrnacion out weeks earlier. Lousiest fielder I've seen in the majors. Maybe, hopefully, Stanton and Weathers can follow. Welcome Keppinger with open arms.

 
at 11:17 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's one of many problems. The bullpen needs a lot of changes as well.

Signed,
The old Right Hander.

 
at 11:22 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Reds made another stupid move, this team deserves last place.

 
at 11:23 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's about time.
Easy E is terrible.
I say we find a way to trade for Brad Lidge.

 
at 11:25 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Encarnacion has never impressed me and this is a good move. I would not be upset if he never came back.

 
at 11:26 AM Blogger tim said...

I would hardly call being sent down the day after committing two two out errors that led to runs scoring in one game, and costing them the game for that matter, as being made a scapegoat

 
at 11:31 AM Anonymous Jake said...

Anonymous, you couldn't be more wrong. The kid hasn't done anything all season. He definitely wasn't in the lineup for his defense. The Reds did hope that it would get better with age over the Spring and into Summer, but that just hasn't happened. When you are in the lineup for offense and you are batting 218 with 1 homer and 19 Ks your days in the bigs aren't looking so great. I was at the Ballpark when EE and Castro were taking early fielding before early hitting started. In a matter of 5 minutes of grounders, EE made 4 errors. It's infield PRACTICE, what do you expect in a game? The only way I slightly agree with you is the fact that this isn't the ONLY move the Reds can make to make sure this ball club doesn't become the TB Rays of the National League.

 
at 11:31 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too bad. He's really the odd man out in the Josh Hamilton phenomenon. Freel gets pushed over to 3B, and EE loses playing time.

It's a long season; he'll be back.

He gets sent down and Todd Coffey gets a contract extension. Reds baseball is a study in irony.

 
at 11:32 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Knee-jerk is right ... this is a bad call ... this guy had 33 doubles last year in 400 ABs. There are a lot of guys off to subpar starts, but you don't see Josh Barfield, Brandon Inge, Conor Jackson or Dan Uggla getting sent down. Encarnacion blew one game for them. How many games has the bullpen blown????

 
at 11:32 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good. The Reds should go on a 15 game win streak now. EE is the only player to commit errors and not run out fly (foul) balls on this team. His presence at third clearly has caused the bullpen implosion and now that he is safely in Louisville, Coffey, Weathers, Stanton, et al should breathe a big sigh of relief. Maybe Milton's elbow will feel better now too. I hope the fans in Louisville don't hold the certain demise of their season against the Reds.
Really, now who does Narron have to kick around when the little things don't get done. Maybe Krivsky could trade EE to the Nationals for another hall-of-fame reliever.

I'm not bitter....

 
at 11:33 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dude...this team has to do something...while I agree that EE is not the ONLY problem, he did cost us the game last night. Now if they could send down Coffey, cut Weathers and Stanton...find a lead-off hitter...trade Dunn for a closer...yikes...there are SO many problems....I give up...WHO-DEY!

 
at 11:34 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish we could send Naron to louisville,then maybe rossie could hit better and the rest of the team might act like a ball club

 
at 11:35 AM Anonymous RickNMd said...

What an absurd comment by Anon 9:41.

If anyone really believes EE doesn't deserve a demotion based on his play, you are watching some other team.

It's hard to be "made" a scapegoat when you ain't hitting, ain't fielding, ain't running out plays, and costing your team games. You've made yourself a scapegoat.

Never seen a mirror yet that lies.

 
at 11:37 AM Anonymous Dennis said...

I agree, EE is not the problem. On one of the news programs last night, an interview with Brandon Phillips indicated there are some clubhouse problems - but he couldn't elaborate. Curious, isnt it?

 
at 11:41 AM Blogger JDGood said...

I am tired of hearing about the pop up, he clearly thought the ball was fowled back. Watching the game on TV, so did I.
I do agree with sending him down though.
The thing is EE is an above average fielder at 3B, it's just the wild throws to first that hurt him. He is better suited to be a firstbaseman. The problem for the Reds is that they have Joey Votto penciled in as the 1B of the future. I heard a rumor the Angels were interested in him. How about a trade involving him for Scott Shields?

 
at 11:55 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is not the first loss that EE has been a major contributor to. I think Narron, Wayne, and his boss are sending a message: " play like a big leaguer or be demoted, waived, or traded". I expect there will be other personnel changes if the Reds' continue their downward spiral. Don't expect Coffey or Stanton to make it for the whole season. I think its a good move because it allows Freel and Hamilton to be in the same line up.

 
at 12:12 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

You would think the Reds staff would try to fix Edwin's throwing motion. On the first error he dropped his elbow so far he was almost submarining the ball over to first. On the other hand, if they have tried to fix it and he hasn't worked on it, then AAA is a good place to wake up and smell the coffee.

 
at 12:15 PM Blogger BG said...

Encarnacion has played poorly and Keppinger has played well. So one is punished and one is rewarded.

To the guy 10:14, why would the Reds get rid of Weathers? He has a 2.70 ERA. He shouldn't be the closer but then again they don't have one.

 
at 12:18 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good lord, how about the guy who wants to get rid of Weathers? Yeah, this team can't use a bullpen guy with a 2.70 ERA and a WHIP of 1.05. Let's get rid of the only consistent arm down there.

 
at 12:27 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put EE at first base. Think about it. Freel could bat 1st and play 3B, and Hamilton could get his time in the out field. Narron could still use his love of lefty/righty matchups and play Hatteberg everynow and then when a righty is throwing.

 
at 1:06 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once again, you can't "make a lesson" out of someone when others are getting of scotch-free. It just doesn't work as a motivational tool.

If you have 3 kids and send kid A kid to his room for not picking up his toys but letting the others go they don't learn a lesson, especially if kid B is much messier.

 
at 1:21 PM Blogger Robert said...

If anyone honestly thinks that sending EE down is a good idea, you just flat out don't know baseball. EE is a major league player, and sending him down to Triple A to get him out of a slump isn't going to help him or this Reds team.

EE is one of the best players on the team, and was batting over .300 in his last 9 games. If I remember correctly, Ryan Freel made a few errors at 3rd base in consecutive games. How is that any better? I love Freel's hustle and passion for the game, but he definitely isn't any type of upgrade at 3rd base.

EE for past few years has been a scapegoat to all of Narron's problems.

Just let the kid play. He shouldn't have to worry about making an error or two and having to sit out the next game. How many other players on the team have made errors and then sat out the next game? It's been like that for EE for past 2 years.

If anyone sees this any differently, then you really haven't been watching Reds baseball for the past few years.

 
at 1:21 PM Blogger kingseyeland said...

The guy is a defensive liability at third base. Getting him some work where he can't do damage to the big club is the best thing for all involved. He can either suck it up and fix the problem or he can not come back. Makes no difference to me, because he sure wasn't hitting. I'd make him trade bait in a heartbeat.

This does NOT get Narron and Krivsky off the hook for the bullpen. We'll see how smart they are when Jared Burton gets some work.

 
at 3:39 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

EE is an all-star first baseman waiting to happen if the powers that be have the foresight to switch him. Stanton, Weathers, etc..... there is a reason the Reds have these guys and its because no one else wanted them. It hacked me off all spring to see Stanton's name every day as a lock to make the roster. Never understood the fascination given that he's been released or not re-signed by every other club. Loading the bases around getting one out today is not what I call relief.

 
at 6:07 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is knee jerk. Narron and Wayne are playing hardball with Edwin and ignoring other problems. Guys slump - its part of baseball. If you want to bench him a few games, bench him...but you have to let him work out of it. What does this do to his head if/when he does get called back up. Also Reds management needs to quit calling him out in the media when they aren't willing to do it with other players. When are we going to stop screwing with our young prospects. There are a lot of teams out there that would like a guy like Encarnacion for 10 cents on the dollar.. and given GM's track record, I wouldn't be surprised see us serve him up.

Mayb Krivsky should've been demoted after the Majewski deal... you know, just to get his head straight.

 
at 10:01 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoever thinks we should get rid of ross is dumb. if the did you would see the starting pitching pitch as bad as the bullpen.

 
at 8:43 AM Anonymous mikec said...

This is a smart move. One that John Fay recommended I believe. Encarnacion will be a great player again. But right now he needs a confidence boost. He's flailing at balls up there and not doing anything to help the team.

 
at 12:18 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who ever said he doesnt care if Edwin never comes back is stupid. Do you watch baseball, Mr. fair weather fan? Edwin is still young, and going through a slump right now, give the dude a break.

 
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