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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Wednesday, July 4, 2007

Giants 9, Reds 5

Matt Belisle was shocked by the quick hook by Pete Mackanin.

“I didn’t see that coming,” Belisle said.

Belisle gave up five runs in the fourth, including four on Fred Lewis’ grand slam, in the fourth.

New manager, new standard for what gets a starter pulled.

“I really like Matt Belisle,” Mackanin said. “He ran into some adversity and he didn’t show a lot of fortitude. It looked like he got out of synch. Unfortunately, it cost us that big inning.

“That obviously put a big hurt on us.”

The reason Belisle got pulled?

“For me, what it boiled down to is after the bit of adversity,” Mackanin said, “I didn’t like the quality of the stuff afterward. I can’t take the chance to send him out the next inning without the command of his pitches. I’m going to have to go to somebody else, and I’d rather give them a fresh start.

“Hey, this is the major leagues. You want these guys to develop . . . "


at 6:21 PM Blogger docproc said...

Five runs in one inning and he didn't see the hook coming? Especially after he grooved the grand slam pitch to Lewis? Get a clue, Matt.

at 10:22 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why does all of the local Cincinnati media have such an inferiority complez? I mean, how can you say the Baltimore job is a better gig than Cincinnati? I was born in Cincinnati and I still have pride in being the first professional franchise and fielding the Big Red Machine. Believe it or not, a lot of players and managers recognize the history here too. So Cincinnati media, stop selling the city and Reds short, it's that attitude that has contributed to where the team is now.

at 12:52 AM Anonymous dwick in OR said...

Hallelujah! I love it!
I hope Belisle's removal today is a signal to the rest of the team and an example of what we can expect during Mackinin's tenure.
Let's hasten to mention 'the adversity' was of Belisle's own making. Seems to me Belisle lost his concentration after the Reds presented him with the prosperity of a 3 run lead.

at 12:54 AM Anonymous George Hale said...

Good for Mack! The pitcher gives up a Grand Slam and then can't understand why he gets yanked!! Unbelievable. What's his ERA? What's his next question? Why am I not on the bus? Someone schedule that guy a blanket party!

at 8:02 AM Blogger Dano said...

So the "New Voice" sounds like the old one.

at 9:14 AM Anonymous Olde Farte said...

Good move by the manager. You stay in the ball game by pitching well, not by giving up 5 runs in an inning. I would hope that MacKanin sends the message to these guys, and not just the pitchers, play the game like you WANT to be here.

at 9:14 AM Anonymous Justin Fernandez said...

Given Macnarron's comments today about "everyone" needs to play and how he admits to being clueless, he's basically a slightly tougher version of Winnie the Pooh. If the Reds are going to have Hatteberg lead off and Hamilton platoon with Conine and Castro platoon with A-GONE and Valentin platoon with Ross then this team will essentially be Mickey Mouse platooning with Mickey Mouse. He's doing the exact same thing Narron was doing, and this is the only team in the major leagues to be afflicted with such STUPIDITY. Hey Castellini Magoo, you've done it again!

30 games under .500 coming soon!

at 10:19 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

The quick hook on Belisle yesterday is a good early indication that Mackanin intends to create a sense of urgency to produce and to win. It didn't work out yesterday, but it nevertheless it is a good sign Mackanin will not accept business as usual. Good show, Pete!

at 11:18 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, changing the management strategy with pitching can't hurt, although that was a good AB for the left fielder that hit the slam...watching at home it seemed like matt would either have to walk in the run or hope the ball died in the outfield...he gambled and lost, I still like him a lot, he's got great stuff, hopefully like they said he'll improve.

at 1:31 PM Anonymous Larry King said...

Belisle is a classic example of Reds pitching this season - gets behind in the count and turns average hitters into Babe Ruth. He had some bad luck but he was at three balls on every hitter.

Is this because of the ball park? Afraid to pitch in the strike zone? They all seem afflicted by it. Constantly behind and we all know that major league hitters love that - it turns them into .300 hitters - why can't they just throw strikes - last season they did and it showed in the results - didn't it.

My opinion is the pitching coach is a big time loser and needs to hit the trial.

Hume was the interim last season and he got results.

Why not go back to him?


at 3:36 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it just me or does Justin not have a clue?

Anyway, I like the quick hook. Sparky used it to great effect, though his bullpen was better.

I would like to see how the bullpen would like if Belisle got put there with Eddie, Stanton, and Bray back off the DL. It would be a bit better, that is for sure. You couldn't move Belisle back there if Lohse was traded but if Lohse is not traded why not try out the other AAA guys? At this point Belisle is a better resource from the pen.

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