Reds Insider: Gil cut

Tuesday, March 25, 2008

Gil cut

From the Reds: The Reds have reassigned to minor league camp IF/OF Jerry Gil.

I'm back in Cincinnati. Thanks for all the kind words.

33 Comments:

at 8:38 AM

MONEY MIKE said...

Has anyone noticed how much Jayson Stark is throwing love the Reds way? Especially Cueto, Volequez, and Cordero.

Gammons is also throwing some love our way, but once again, its spring training.

at 8:47 AM

Ron said...

John,
If Homer Bailey does not make the starting rotation, do you think the Reds would consider using him out of the bullpen in long relief? I think letting him come north would actually be more beneficial for him (mentally) than sending him to Louisville.

Now that Gil has been cut, who do you see getting the 25th spot?

at 9:17 AM

Mr. Doom and Gloom said...

both stark and gammons pieces certainly cast the reds youngsters and the kirv in a favorable light.

and whether you like him as a manager or not, dusty has brought the redlegs much more national exposure, particularly with the wwl.

at 9:35 AM

Anonymous said...

I wish I had an ESPN insider subscription. What all does Gammons go on to say about the Red's?

at 9:45 AM

Anonymous said...

I think send Homer to Triple A to work on his control. He dominates that level so they need to make sure they work with him on what he needs to come back up.

I think Green or Phillips will be the 25th man

at 9:59 AM

ST fan said...

I'm betting there is a trade of some sort before Monday. ( How else can two GMs be justified.) Likely a catcher.

at 10:46 AM

Bruce Hubbard said...

From Peter Gammons blog:

Think about where the Reds were two years ago in terms of pitching, and now they have Aaron Harang and his 32 wins and 434 strikeouts the last two years, as well as Bronson Arroyo. But one of the best storylines in western Florida has been the springs of Johnny Cueto and Edinson Volquez.

"We're at the point where we could have two of the better young power arms in baseball in Cueto and Volquez," says Dusty Baker. "Cueto is special -- three or four pitches, a real presence, great stuff. Volquez [acquired for Josh Hamilton] is really good, too. And in his last couple of outings, Homer Bailey has started throwing a lot better. By going out and getting [Francisco] Cordero, we've got the makings of a pretty good staff. With our offense, we can be dangerous."

Cincinnati has been the consensus sleeper in the NL Central behind favorites Chicago and Milwaukee. The Cubs are still trying to address center field and Brian Roberts issues. After losing Chris Capuano to Tommy John surgery, the Brewers' depth isn't what it appeared to be, and scouts say Eric Gagne has yet to throw as well as he did last season.

"At least now we have some depth in our rotation," says Reds GM Wayne Krivsky.

There are still decisions to be made. The first is between Joey Votto and Scott Hatteberg at first base. The second is in center field, between Corey Patterson, Norris Hopper and Ryan Freel.

Baker has already struggled managing Patterson and his career .298 on-base percentage, but wants his defense between Junior Griffey and Adam Dunn. But Dusty sees Patterson maturing as a player.

"Corey seems to be better taking some pitches, trying to get on base, and he's starting to bunt and go the other way," says Baker. Hot prospect Jay Bruce isn't coming through that door for awhile, so maybe they got Patterson at the right time.

Krivsky was hired as GM right before spring training two years ago, but has done an outstanding, underappreciated job with scouting and development. If Cueto, Volquez and even Bailey -- who had fallen in the eyes of many baseball people -- all come on this season, the Reds will be in the best position they've enjoyed in years.

at 11:02 AM

Matt McWax said...

The newly cut Gil might be a secondary trade commodity for a deal with an AL team. If Votto starts, the bench is Hatteberg, 2nd Catcher, Freel, Hopper, and Castro. If no deals are made, the Reds go with Patterson, use 12 pitchers as expected, and stick with Castro and Votto as a starter, then the "25th man" doesn't exist. It's a lot of ifs but they are all affirmative to our best guesses. 8 player starters + 5 bench + 5 pitching starters + 7 bullpen = 25 = no Cabrera, no Green, no A.Phillips, no Hairston, etc...

at 11:41 AM

MJ said...

I'm in the camp that feels there is going to be a trade before Monday. I wouldn't doubt if tight lipped Wayne doesn't have something in the works already. Should be interesting? Freel, Hatteberg, Bailey, and Gil etc. are all possibles to be included.

at 11:46 AM

MJ said...

I'm confident in the first 4 but have to admit that 5th spot is still pretty much up in the air. I agree with St. Fan we need another viable starter and catcher.

at 11:57 AM

Osogato said...

Thanks for posting that article Bruce! It's nice to see the Reds finally getting some national attention. Let's hope they give them a reason to keep paying attention into September and dare I say it, October!

at 12:02 PM

redsfan8557 said...

First of all welcome back John hope everything is well. As I have said the Reds are on the right path. I think with a good leader in the clubhouse we will be a fun team to watch. There is nothing better then watching a game on a nice Saturday night with friends and family at the ballpark. We all need to stay positive this week just like Joe was in the booth and in life

at 12:15 PM

REddlegg in Colorado said...

Anyone think the reds could make a trade for Coco Crisp for CF?

at 12:30 PM

MJ said...

With Patterson, Hopper, Freel, and Bruce waiting in the wings down in Louisville I'd say there is little if no chance of the Reds even showing interest in Cocoa Crispy.

at 12:54 PM

Bruce Hubbard said...

My wife keeps making fun of me because I'm excited about this year! She's not a baseball fan so she doesn't know what is going on but she keeps saying "You said that last year" every time I tell her the Reds have a chance this year :)

at 1:00 PM

JackBlueAsh said...

Bruce..we have not played a single game

Dusty dont know pitching..because Dusty or anyone else says something dont make it so

Homer could not make it out of the 4th or 5th inning last night. Did not Cueto not make it out of the 1st inning a couple of nights ago?

The games begin next week..at the very most this is a .500 team

at 2:15 PM

reaganspad said...

and Keppinger has never had more than 32 RBI's in a season or more than 80 hits. Hamilton has never played a full season.

so what exactly is your point? that those 2 guys are only as good as their last stats?
That is not what you have posted in here 1,152 times Jack

at 2:15 PM

Bruce Hubbard said...

OMG the season hasn't started yet? All pitchers have bad games so that's not an issue. Only time will tell if we have a winning team or not. I can't believe someone so negative actually takes the time to post on a blog. There are a lot of other methods to vent that are more effective than thread crapping. Oh well, some people.

at 3:33 PM

redsfan8557 said...

Bruce, its good to hear that someone else is positive like me. My wife is the same way your wife is but i keep my head up and cant wait in till opening day. Jack I wish you would be a little positive.
Its true we have not played one game yet so why not think positive. But keep posting Jack, I enjoy your comments. If you think this way in life then I feel sorry for you

at 3:49 PM

JackBlueAsh said...

reganspad when any player like Cueto or volquez has an excellent first half of an entire season, Ill start believing..until then volquez is 3-11 with a 7 ERA in 3 years at the majors.. Cueto has not pitched a regular season game yet..we will see

so reagan your man Bailey that was also gonna save this franchise along with Affeldt and others looks like hes gonna get sent back to the minors LOL

tell everyone again how Juan Castro should be our starter at SS Reagan

Bruce i am looking forward to this season, Julie and I will go to at least 30-40 games and have a blast. I look forward to tremendous improvement and this team playing.500 ball.

Because I am a realist and dont gush over a team that has lost 7 years in a row does not make me any less of a fan than you

at 6:37 PM

JackBlueAsh said...

redsfan..it appears that you and many others on this blog get upset when presented a dose of reality..sorry

redsfan please..lets stick to baseball like John Fay has suggested

regardless of how this team performs we will be at the ballpark cheering the team on

As I have suggested many times, I hope that this team improves to .500..this would be a very achievable goal

Adults have realistic expectations..children do not

at 6:49 PM

Bruce Hubbard said...

That's absolutely true :) But over the last several seasons I've learned to appreciate spring training because it's usually the only time I can be positive about the Reds :) It's a new beginning and every team has the possibility to be great. Then about half way through the season reality sets in and then I can't wait for football season :)

at 7:33 PM

redsfan8557 said...

Thanks Jack, see you at the ballpark

at 8:06 PM

redsfanwoody said...

Thanks Bruce for posting the article. I appreciate your enthusiasm for the Reds. The Reds if every thing breaks right will be competitive.

If you are filled with hope for the Reds,gush away. Nothing wrong with that. He who complains about people "gushing" about the Reds are not realist.

Most adults don't call people names through this thread. Children do.

at 8:47 PM

ilikereds said...

Man I love the Reds and only wish that I wasn't going to miss virtually the whole season this year. As a forward deployed US Navy Sailor, I take the time to daily read the Reds updates and usually take the time to read John's blog.

Jack, while I understand your "realistic" approach to analyzing the uncoming season, I do not understand why you have to be so abbrasive in doing so. Just in case you didn't realize it, you come across as very negative and harsh towards the Reds. While I truly believe you are a devoted Reds fan as well, just know that people DO take offense when you bash their team, that is THE BIGGEST reason why people tend to react towards your comments the way they do.

All, continue to bang the drum. While we may not be there yet, this team is definitly moving in the right direction. In the meantime, please humor me and let me believe that there is hope before hope is dashed. If not for hope, why would I be in the job that I am in!?! I love this country and I love the Reds. Go Reds!!!

at 8:57 PM

Hugh D. Pohl said...

You know Jack, earlier in the post-season John Fay asked for input about the Reds' chances and I think both you and I said 3rd place. Well, with your acrid, lifeless, not to mention repetitive dis-spirited comments, I hope they come on like gangbusters and crush the hell out of your assinine soul-crushing commments. You think you are realistic but you suck the life out of everything. I would love to see the Reds go all the way just to spite you and your gleefully spirit-killing ilk. Then again they could suck and you are entiltled to gloat to your dessicated heart's content.

at 10:21 AM

Bruce Hubbard said...

Jessee thanks for your dedication to our country!

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at 10:51 AM

MJ said...

I think the Reds chances for success rest on the arms of their young pitchers. If Cueto and Volquez do well the Reds have an excellant shot at stealing this division. They're very talented and as deep as I've seen them in quite some time.

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at 1:50 PM

JackBlueAsh said...

John Fay..I see you let people continue to attack me yet do not allow my response.

Don't lecture me in the future Fay, don't email me again..I find you to be a hypocrite..

But thats ok..no big deal..I would suggest to you Fay that you would be better served learning how to spell at the 10th grade.I mean really dude..and you claim to be a writer

Have a nice day John Fay

at 2:26 PM

John Fay said...

Jack: I'm not the only one who moderates posts. I probably would have rejected that one. That said, you can avoid the things you don't like about this blog by staying off it.

at 2:43 PM

JackBlueAsh said...

Moderators should be impartial Fay.

And I showed compassion towards you and your brother..thats the thanks I get

at 2:58 PM

John Fay said...

jack: if I was bias, don't you think I would have just rejected all your posts? again, you dont have to post or read the blog.

at 4:39 PM

JackBlueAsh said...

I have friends on this blog John. I will provide ballpark fan updates when the season begins

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Gil cut

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