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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Friday, April 18, 2008

Brewers 5, Reds 2

The way Ben Sheets was pitching I had the Reds down for no chance of coming back. But Sheets was lifted for a pinch-hitter in the sixth. He left with tightness in right triceps. He went five innings. He allowed just two hits. He walked none and struck out four.

Bronson Arroyo's line: 5 2/3 innings, five runs, eight hits, three walks, four strikeouts. He's failed to make it through the sixth in any of his fourth starts. His ERA's at 5.90.

The Reds loaded the bases with no outs in the eighth. But against a left-hander, they had to send to Paul Bako and Scott Hatteberg, both left-handed hitters, to the plate. The lack of power right-handed bat on the bench is glaring.

The Reds ended up scoring two in the ninth and getting the tying run to the plate twice. The Reds are 0-6 in series openers.


at 9:00 PM Blogger Joe said...

Is Arroyo just trying to be too fine with his breaking balls and avoid challenging hitters?

Good thing there are a few SP options in Louisville and Chattannooga.

at 9:10 PM Blogger Al in Ohio said...

I say put Brandon Phillips in the rotation. Right now it's like Eddie Fainer (sp?) and his All-Star softball team. Phillips, Keppinger, and one other guy could play as well.

at 9:23 PM Blogger The Dunce Cap Marvel said...

I think Bronson is still pissed at last year's bullpen so he's purposely trying to wear them out this year. Whatever is wrong with him needs to be fixed pronto. His outing are quick becoming automatic losses for the team.

at 9:24 PM Blogger BubbaFan said...

Is Arroyo injured?

at 9:35 PM Blogger JerBear said...

The Reds don't seem to be any better than all the other mediocre teams in the NL Central so far.

It's always surprising how things can change so quickly in baseball. The Reds looked great after winning 2 out of 3 in Milwaukee.

Now they look like the worst team in the division.

I remember last year that the bullpen actually started out decent before turning into one of the worst Reds bullpens of all time.

This year the team started out good, and now is really struggling. The season is really long so it's too early to make drastic changes or give up, but this team just gives off a sense of blahness to me.

at 10:05 PM Blogger Dave said...

Looks like Arroyo is pitching BP. 5 innings & 3 ER is thebest you can hope for with this guy. He's a #4 at best.

at 10:13 PM Blogger Ed said...

Arroyo needs to put down the guitar and stop making those commercials so he can focus on pitching the baseball.

at 10:16 PM Blogger Another losing season said...

Who's impressed. Just as I predicted at 4:25 pm in the NEW RULE thread, Reds lose 5 - 2. This is just too easy.

at 10:31 PM Blogger Richie Rich said...

Anyone else notice that Valentin (terrible pinch hitter, .200 career) batted in the place of our hottest hitter (Votto) who was double switched out of the game? You shouldn't remove your hottest hitter when you need runs, EVER.

at 10:31 PM Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

I sure would have liked to see a decent RH bat up there in the eighth inning. You know, someone like a Jorge Cantu or even Andy Phillips.

Great job by The Amazing Krivsky putting together another boring losing ball club.

As I have said since last year, Arroyo is horrible, how long is he signed for?

I wonder how long JTM will continue those lovely commercials.

at 10:45 PM Blogger BubbaFan said...

In the right-handed bat department...Craig Wilson, rejected by Dr. Kremchek, passed his physical with the Pirates. He hit a three-run homer for the Indianapolis Indians tonight.

at 10:48 PM Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

"You shouldn't remove your hottest hitter when you need runs, EVER."
WOW! That statement is absolutely right.

at 11:06 PM Blogger Richie Rich said...

Cantu stinks. Get a grip already. Go look at his numbers for free. Your hero has a lousy average, lousy OBP, and lousy Slugging percentage this year. But hey, as long as you want to keep touting a mediocre player, I'll keep laughing.

at 11:12 PM Blogger tom dunne said...

Arroyo wasn't good, but it didn't matter - the Reds scored just two runs. If Arroyo had made a quality start, he'd still have lost.

at 11:29 PM Blogger REddlegg in Colorado said...

___________ -
Good call on the 5-2 prediction.

Why no changes,I know it's early but this team needs a facelift.It looks broken & needing fixed,but is getting ignored.Kinda of like the house in the neighborhood that nobody can stand because they let it rot,the garbage is piled up all over the yard, & the owners are slobs.

Hope that comment doesn't hurt your blog Mr.fay.So many experts from baseball to life on this blog.

Oh, to _________,my life is fine.I sleep well & root for my hometeam to win.I watch the games,not busy myself with looking up stats.

at 11:34 PM Blogger Another losing season said...

Does Dusty do more double switching than other managers?

at 11:42 PM Blogger BATSFAN said...

Hey John, I was right, if you look at the Cubs Pirates highlights, look for Fukudomes triple, as the center fielder for the Pirates is trying to get the ball somebody trys to pour a beverage on him from the stands. Typical Cubs fan!!!

at 12:17 AM Blogger Chris Sabo said...

I was at the game tonight around the RF Sun Deck area for the first time....I must say, I was a bit ashamed of the way Ken Griffey Jr. acted, sure there were fans booing at times or whatnot..but at one time griffey took off his glove, and asked a fan if he wanted to take his spot...Griffey, ur one of the greatest OF'ers of all time, no need to stoop to that level...

at 12:21 AM Blogger JackBlueAsh said...

we just got back..I dont know what to say..team still looks lifeless But its early .

Looks like other teams have figured out Arroyo

I know we needed pitching but I sure would have liked to seen Hamilton in Red for his sophomore year. He is exactly what this team needs

Cantu can be a very good ballplayer if someone would give him a chance.

at 12:37 AM Blogger Mr. Pitt said...

I want Wily Mo back!

at 1:22 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

People are acting like they expect Bako to do something other than strikeout in meaningful AB's. The guy isn't here for his bat. Anything he gives you above .230 is icing on the cake. Just because he's hit .360 so far, doesn't mean he's turned the corner or figured it out. He's a long time veteran with a poor bat and above average defensive skills.

Fogg and Castro need to be out of here ASAP. Both of them are more than expendable.

Hatteberg's trade value is awfully low right now.

We may just need to cut our losses and get rid of Coffey. It's apparent that a stint in the minors won't do him any good, as it hasn't in the past. Too bad, he's got good stuff and a good mindset. Poor execution.

Valentin stays.
Bako should be cut when Ross is ready.

Freel OR Hopper. Pick one. Trade the other (or demote Hopper)

Get Cabrera or Phillips up here ASAP. Hairston will not be successful, as he hasn't been since he was on the juice. Plus, it gives Cincy a bad rep to have an HGH guy here. I say cut Hairston or murder him. Preferably the latter.

I am still perplexed as to why Castro is on this team.
We CANNOT afford to use a roster spot on a defensive specialist.
When are defensive specialists used? When we're up in the 8th and 9th innings. How often are we up late? Not that often? That's what I thought - meaning Castro is useless. Besides - our defense isn't nearly as bad as it was when Castro was brought in back in 06.

Last, but not least, time to end the Corey Patterson experiment. If we could ship him to a team that has a proven leadoff hitter, but needs a LH bat and CF, we could find a spot for Patterson. We need a leadoff hitter playing CF on this team. .270 OBP will not cut it. Patterson would be an ideal 7 hitter. Maybe the Twins could use him.

at 2:17 AM Blogger redaholic said...

the reds need to trade homer bailey and ryan freel for the best third baseman that will bring in a trade.losing homer is tough to swallow, but volquez-cueto emergence makes losing him easier. gotta give alot to get alot. the time is now.

at 2:33 AM Blogger 24/7 said...

let's see, the reds needs are...

another quality starter in the rotation
right handed pop off the bench
a catcher once bako cools off
another righty in the bullpen

none of those are a left handed power bat named hamilton. why? dunn, griff, votto, patterson, and soon to be bruce all are employed by the cincinnati reds.

find a way to put arroyo on the dl and go get homer. i'm assuming belisle takes fogg's spot soon.

at 2:55 AM Blogger Rob said...

getting shutout in the 8th with bases loaded was horrible. Arroyo doesnt have it, hes way overpaid- a decent 5th starter. Hopefully someone will get desperate in July and the Reds can deal him for a prospect or 2. In the 8th, Hat and Bako choked by not thinking 1st pitch fastball. They both got it and ended up whiffing on junk. Also, the atmosphere at the ballpark was sterile- as always. No one goes to games anymore and most of those who do arent true die hard fans and they are there merely for entertainment. Why wasnt the crowd on its feet clapping and cheering in the bottom of the 8th and 9th?

This team isnt going anywhere this season, 80 wins would be a feat. There are too many guys on the roster who dont play the game properly. Thus, it will be a few years before the Reds can be considered threats for the Central.

at 6:20 AM Blogger bsu1 said...

A couple of comments. 1) Arroyo is no better than a #5 starter. Use him as trade bait and get a right hand pitcher and put Bailey, Lehr, or Thompson in the starting slot. 2) Jorge Cantu played great last Sept. for the Reds. I wonder if in hindsight we made a mistake in keeping Hattie instead of the right hand hitting Cantu. I know a previous poster said "cantu stinks" but he did give us some right hand pop last year.

at 6:28 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does this look like a repeat of last year already. Bronson is at best a 3rd or 4th starter. Benard would of could have been a big lift but we're keeping our HOF'er in the minors? Right now 4 teams in our division look so much better than us. We cant afford to wait till the All Star break to fix the problem against left handed pitching!

at 7:57 AM Blogger JackBlueAsh said...

I don't care if someone bats with his hands behind his back...enough of this righty- lefty thing..

Duh... we need players that can actually make contact with the ball on a consistent basis

yeah Dunn and Patterson are the reasons they let Hamilton go.

Ill type it again..you keep the same players, you generally get the same results

A team with Patterson, Dunn, Castro, Freel, Arroyo, Coffey, Bako, Valentin, Fogg will not be winning anything

at 7:59 AM Blogger Mr. Doom and Gloom said...

castro will be gone as soon as they are assured gonzalez is ready to go for hte long haul, without him, we have no back-up SS...at least arroyo only gave up one HR tonight...i like how dusty stays positive with his comments after the losses

at 8:36 AM Blogger Brick said...

Past performance is always the best indicator of what's going to happen in the future...

Patterson in the one hole isn't working. He's a lifetime .240 hitter with a .297 OBP....He's performing worse than that now. Let's move on.

I really like Arroyo, but he's a #5 at best. Frankly, if Belisle comes up and pitches well (that whole "past performance thing..." comes into play here)and if Bailey continues to perform...well...Arroyo might be best served in the the pen.

Also, could be time to bring up Bruce...I know, I Know, he's a left...but he's a lefty that's hitting.

Proposed Rotation:

Proposed Line-up:

The Reds should make some changes to spark a fire before this team gets used to losing.

at 9:26 AM Blogger Reds&Bengals STINK 1375 said...

Bases loaded with nobody out and cannot score! Amazing! How many times have we seen this the last 3 years. This is hands down the worst offense in all of the MLB. I think the Reds are trying to catch the Bungals 15 year streak of futility. The need to blow this team up and start over. Hopefully they they can get something for the "Dunner" and "Grif-Dog" in July. Go after more than one big free agent in the off season. Bring on Midnight Madness, because baseball season and football season is over!

at 9:56 AM Blogger JackBlueAsh said...

most managers stay positive after a loss..

Dusty was saying the team played great defensively and he knows they will snap out of this losing streak.

Problem with that is ...the teams defense is not an issue

at 10:39 AM Blogger bluegrass said...

Yeah, I agree would also agree why Votto was double switched. At the time I thought that Dusty had just thrown in the towell and jumped at the chance to rest him. Not a good move.

at 10:48 AM Blogger Jeff said...

True the Reds had more trouble against left handers last year than right handers, so you would expect the same this year. But, the haven't been doing much against right handers either. They've been consistently unable to string enough hits together to score runs. Hopefully, this will end soon.

The reason the Reds traided Hamilton is Volquez. And it has the potential for being a great trade for both teams.

at 11:33 AM Blogger Clueless Krivsky said...

"Patterson in the one hole isn't working. He's a lifetime .240 hitter with a .297 OBP....He's performing worse than that now. Let's move on."


There we go! I've been waiting for someone to take a shot at Patterson tonight, even though he didn't start.

The guy leads the team in extra base hits (9) and is 3rd on the team in RBIs (9), and this all coming from the leadoff spot, yet we need to move on from him!

Meanwhile Hopper's hitting .240 with 0 extra base hits and 0 RBIs.

at 12:33 PM Blogger T-Mac said...

I agree with a previous post, same players will merit same results. I never understood the fascination Arroyo as a #2/3 starter. He did well his first time through the NL, but as has come painfully apparent, professional hitters have figured him out. Give the guitar thing a rest, he's a #5 or long relief at best (always was, always will be). Votto needs to play everyday and every inning (he flat out rakes the ball)! I look forward to a line-up that has Kepp/Phillips/Votto/Bruce . . . that is a nice start; now go out Wayne and build around these guys already!

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