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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Tuesday, April 8, 2008

Brewers 3, Reds 2

Johnny Cueto went 6 1/3 innings, allowing two runs on five hits. He struck out eight and did not walk a batter. 96 pitches, 66 strikes. He left on the hook for a loss after Bill Hall gave the Brewers a 2-1 lead with a home run to lead off the seventh.

This was one was strike away from being over when Corey Patterson hit one out to tie it off Brewer closer Eric Gagne in the 9th.

The Reds and David Weathers lost it in the 10th.

"Johnny Cueto threw a great game," Dusty Baker said. "That's why I left him in there in the seventh. I said, 'Dude, you deserve a chance to win this game.' He was throwing great."

But Cueto hung a 2-1 breaking ball to Hall.

"The only mistake he made," Baker said.

The Reds aren't hitting. They left 11 runners on. They're hitting .232 as a team. Jeff Keppinger (.387), Junior (.333), Paul Bako (.316) and Brandon Phillips (.303) are above .300. Patterson's at .269 and Votto's .267. Everyone else is below .200 -- Adam Dunn (.130), Norris Hopper (.1250, Scott Hatteberg (.071), Edwin Encarnacion (.083) are struggling.


Here's rundown of Cueto's second start:

Cueto's first: Went 1-2-3 -- stunningly without a strikeout. He threw 11 pitches, nine of which were strikes. Joey Votto made a nice play on a hard hit ball by Prince Fielder. Cueto hit 96 once on the scoreboard radar readout.

Cueto's second: Struck out Ryan Braun on four pitches. Cueto went to a 3-ball count for the first time in career on Bill Hall but he struck him out with his first changeup of the night. Struck out Corey Hart on four pitches. 14 pitches, 9 strikes.

Cueto's third: J.J. Hardy grounded a single past short. It was the first Cueto had to go to the stretch. Jeff Suppan bunted Hardy over. Jason Kendall singled to score him. Cueto struck out Rickie Weeks and Gabe Gross grounded out. 18 pitches, 12 strikes.

Cueto's fourth: 1-2-3, 7-pitch inning against Fielder (fly to 7), Braun (fly to 8), Hall 6-3. Pitch speeds: 85, 94, 92, 96, 85, 90, 86.

Cueto's fifth: Hart struck out looking. Hardy singled. Suppan bunted him over. Kendall singled. But Weeks struck out to strand the runners.

Cueto's sixth: 1-2-3, 7 pitches. He struck out Fielder on a 95 mph fastball.

Reds tied it in the seventh on Corey Patterson's two-out RBI single.

Cueto's seventh: Hall led off with homer that just got out to left. Cueto struck out Hart, the last batter he faced.

Nice outing by Homer Bailey tonight: 5 2/3 scoreless innings, 4 hits, 1 walk, 7 Ks.


70 Comments:

at 9:50 PM Blogger Brick said...

SCORE SOME RUNS....DANG!!!

 
at 9:53 PM Blogger AReds83 said...

Good to see Homer doing well so far. Anybody getting tired to EE's inconsistencies? How long of a leash should they give him? I know he's still young (25), but you've got to think that if this continues Keppinger's going to take his job. With the exception of his walk-off homer, he's been painful to watch.

 
at 9:53 PM Blogger AReds83 said...

Good to see Homer doing well so far. Anybody getting tired to EE's inconsistencies? How long of a leash should they give him? I know he's still young (25), but you've got to think that if this continues Keppinger's going to take his job. With the exception of his walk-off homer, he's been painful to watch.

 
at 9:57 PM Blogger Chillicothe redfan said...

Listening to Marty and Jeff on the Big One here in Southern Illinois. It's kind of fuzzy, but I'll take it

Cueto is dealing it tonight, this kid is for real. Offense needs to get it in gear, We're making Suppan look like an ace tonight, let's get a man across! Haha, we just did! Great, now a steal by Patterson and a hit by Kepp and Cueto can get the win. Go Redlegs!

 
at 10:20 PM Blogger ron said...

I'm tired of errors from Encarnacion (even if it wasn't scored that way it should have been). It cost several extra pitches that inning. Get him out of there!!!!

 
at 10:28 PM Blogger Hugh D. Pohl said...

It's the second week of the season; hard to believe all the EE concern on here.

 
at 10:37 PM Blogger John Fay said...

Encarnacion came into the night leading the NL in walks with eight. He walked to load the bases in the eighth. But Hopper, pinch hitting for Votto, grounded out to end the inning.

 
at 10:52 PM Blogger KevinFtMyers said...

Schlemdog,

First game of a long road trip, not to mention 9 of next 11 against divisional teams.

Dusty was thinking one more inning for Cueto means one less pitcher used tonight. The way Cuetos been pitching, nobody expected him to give up that dinger. In the sixth Cueto retired the side on 7 pitches including a strikeout of Prince Fielder.

Remember, the game is tied at that time, if you are behind, you pull him, if you are ahead, you leave him in. Tied is a judgement call.

In this case Dusty was wrong, but by chance more than because of flawed philosophy.

 
at 10:55 PM Blogger AReds83 said...

That's true, but he also only has 2 hits. I realize the season is young, but the last couple years I read a lot about predictions of EE having a breakout season. Just wondering how you can sit Keppinger down while we wait on EE to "breakout".

 
at 11:00 PM Blogger redsfanwoody said...

Can't bang on Patterson for awhile. He's making a believer out of me so far.

 
at 11:02 PM Blogger Chris Sabo said...

Corey Clutch Patterson Baby

 
at 11:05 PM Blogger Ron said...

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at 11:06 PM Blogger Ron said...

i like dusty. but i would have hit for cueto. i also would have kept votto in...he was swinging alright tonight.

that being said, i am a fan like the other posters on here...i trust dusty knows what he is doing.

i dig ee. thanks for keeping the people informed JF....it is always someone dogging some player or another in here...

ohhhhh...and yeah...how about Corey???? haha he didn't get his walks....but hot DAMN has he kept us in the game!!!

tough break for the mathy baseball 'fans' who LOVE to hate on our players!

Redlegs!!!

 
at 11:08 PM Blogger redifil said...

Hitting .087 (Bingo?), leading the league in walks isn't a very big deal, IMO. Not that it's time to give up on him, but he needs to get going fairly soon or consideration must be given to putting j-Kep at third when Gonzo is back (IMO).

 
at 11:09 PM Blogger redifil said...

Big Ups for C. Patterson! Lookng like a better pick up all the time.

 
at 11:11 PM Blogger redifil said...

If you're hitting 087 (Bingo!), leading the league in walks is of little use.

 
at 11:14 PM Blogger KevinFtMyers said...

I really like the fact that this Reds team wont go quietly. Even in some of the loses they have been in a posistion to do something late.

 
at 11:15 PM Blogger schlemdog said...

KFTMY,

I think Dusty should have pinch hit for Cueto down 1-0 in the 7th with a man on second and 1 out.

Reds need to protect young arms and that is an obvious opportunity to use descretion. Pull Cueto to protect his arm AND give the Reds a better chance to score.

After Patterson bailed Dusty out, starting the 7th is fine, although the end result of all of this was an extra inning on Cueto's arm.

I don't see any benefit in leaving Cueto in to hit.

 
at 11:22 PM Blogger KevinFtMyers said...

Correction, next 12 against divisional opponents. (I was thinking Dodgers between Cubs and Brewers)

 
at 11:30 PM Blogger Brendan T said...

We'll chalk that game up as "Dusty Loss #1". Questionable managerial decisions all the way through.

 
at 11:39 PM Blogger KevinFtMyers said...

Sclem,

The benefit(s)are having the best pitcher on the team on the mound one more inning in a close game and saving a bullpen pitcher for another night. (But it didnt work out)

You may be right, but this is probably what Dusty was thinking. Again, wrong by chance, not 'cause he doesnt know what hes doing.

Crap! Thanks Stormy!
Well guess it doesnt matter now.

Im starting to think using Mercker in the 8th might be a good idea. I know that doesnt apply to tonights situation, but Im worried that if Weathers keeps this up, we wont be seeing Coco as often as we would like.

 
at 11:44 PM Blogger rb said...

same reds as always. they dont hit home runs(PLURAL) they dont win no matter how good the starting pitching. any chance this team wins more than 80? only in its dreams.

 
at 11:45 PM Blogger rb said...

same reds as always they dont hit home runSSSSSS they dont win no matter how good the pitching. any chance this team wins more than 80? only in its dreams.

 
at 11:47 PM Blogger Ron said...

i dunno brenden 'armchair' manager...

i am glad to have dusty, bako, corey, and ee right now.

Redlegs!

haha and we have 154 more games...plenty of time for Edwin to get hot, same happened last year and he finished arguably our best hitter, especially with RISP.

Redlegs!!!

 
at 11:50 PM Blogger Frank Robinson's Ghost said...

I'd chalk it up as a "the Reds aren't hitting for bleep" loss.

You can't expect Paul Bako and Corey Patterson to provide about half of the offense on a winning team.

 
at 12:05 AM Blogger The Dunce Cap Marvel said...

I feel like I should be upset about this loss, but I find that I'm not. Yeah, their were a few questionable management decisions, but you take chances to win games -- if it works out Dusty's a genius, if not he's an idiot. Yes, the offense seemed to regress after taking a step forward over the weekend, but they good chances to win the game late yesterday and today. The team is staying competitive against very good ball clubs. Last year this would have been a 7-2 loss with multiple runs given up by the bullpen. These players are NOT going to be batting below the Mendoza line all year and when they get going this type of game will swing our way much more often than not. I'm bummed we got knocked back to .500 but I feel it won't be for long! Go Reds!

 
at 12:13 AM Blogger Dave said...

EE has started slow for three years in a row - pretty much a guarantee he'll start slow next year, too. *shrug* If Gonzo comes back soon and Edwin is still scuffling, sit him down for a few weeks and get Keppinger a few at bats - once EE finds right field again, he'll start hitting and Kepp can keep rotating. Positive thoughts - Dunn is slumping early, not after a hot start (good for the pennant race) and Jr. is hitting, rather than taking a full month-plus to get going. Both bode extremely well for the summer months - especially when Bailey takes his spot back from Fogg.

 
at 12:23 AM Blogger Dave said...

PS - to the critics, Bako and Patterson are major leaguers. Look at the speeds in this article on Cueto's 7 pitch inning. Change, Fastball, Slider, FB, SL, CU, FB or some such order - that's Bako. If you aren't set and comfy in the box, always offbeat, you don't hit the ball well. Cueto has that type of stuff and Bako is pressing PS3 buttons behind the plate. Patterson buckles down close/late, even if he's not a great leadoff, and he is a gold-glove caliber CF with great range. With an older Griff. and Dunner (skinnier or not) out there, that's key. Stars, no, but both are the type of quality contributor you need on a winning club - good additions by Baker/Krivsky. I'd love to hear a little less griping about adding two productive players (and I don't care what they make, they were good pickups when available, and trump anything else we could've gotten for our needs).

 
at 12:27 AM Blogger SandMan said...

First, I want to welcome my beloved Reds to their new spring home in AZ. I can't wait to see the boys out here in 2 years.

Second, you guys are all overlooking a big issue from tonights game that I am sure was a lighning rod on the post-game show on WLW. Please compare Dunn's handling of the run-scoring blooper that he bobbled with Junior's hustle and hold defense an inning later on a similar bloop single. I do love watching Dunn hit bombs (if he ever does again), but it seems like proper fielding almost happens accidentally with him. His bobble directly cost us a run on a routing play. I just wanted to make sure we didn't put all the blame on EE!

 
at 12:29 AM Blogger reds fest said...

I agree with The Dunce Cap Marvel... I'm starting to love this 2008 team. Our bullpen is not the same as last year's. I'm glad Cueto and Volquez are in our rotation. GO REDS!

 
at 1:01 AM OpenID ajmlx9 said...

He left him in because he deserved a chance to get the win?

I don't see how Cueto isn't pinch hit for if Dusty knew that he'd be on a short leash anyway.


That wasn't his only (highly) questionable move of the evening.

How about inserting Hatteberg into the 7 spot to play 1B after pinch hitting for Votto.

Burn your best PH knowing that Gagne would be on to close it out in the 9th.

 
at 1:20 AM Blogger NVreds said...

"I really like the fact that this Reds team wont go quietly. Even in some of the loses they have been in a position to do something late."

Yep, thats the biggest difference I see too. Its my opinion for any sport that if you're going to lose, you go down fighting. 10 runs down, doesn't matter you still go out there and attempt to comeback just to prove to the other team they better look out next time.

This is the best thing I've seen from dusty, last yr there were games narron gave up on. Dusty is trying to win every game, he runs out pitchers meant to get 3 outs pretty much every time, I haven't seen a bullpen move yet I disagreed with, that happened all the time with narron, though it does help when the pen is better.

 
at 6:10 AM Blogger Al in Ohio said...

Although it's early, let's give Francisco Cordero the season's Most B.S. Comment of the Year Award.

He left the Brewers, who were in first place last year until the last week, for the Reds, who finished 18 games under .500, because he "wanted to win"??

Come on, Francisco. It's okay to admit you wanted the extra $4 million. Good Lord. He "wanted to win".

 
at 6:24 AM Blogger ArGee said...

I think those who are giving EE some slack are mistaken. "Wait till you see his numbers at the end of the year" they say. Well, when he started putting those numbers up in the past few years the Reds were already out of it. No pressure. The kid played winter ball and was sensational. He comes to spring training and looks like he has no clue. I say when Agon comes back, they move Kepp to third and EE to Lousiville or wherever.

 
at 8:00 AM Blogger JackBlueAsh said...

i find it funny that the majority on this blog were so positive about this team are yet so quick to diminish said team and certain players after only a week and a half

why dont you all calm down and just enjoy baseball

team will be better than last year

 
at 8:28 AM Blogger Brendan T said...

On a positive note, it was GREAT to see Griff drop down a bunt to the left side and get an easy single. He didn't end up scoring, but if they're giving you a free baserunner you have to take it.

 
at 8:40 AM Blogger kevin in west lafayette said...

There weren't any questionable managerial calls people...Weathers just blew the game in the tenth because he was too hittable yesterday. He didn't fool anyone and the brewers can hit. I wonder how the game would have been different with Patterson stealing second and not getting called out... a tired pitcher... who knows.

 
at 9:03 AM Blogger schlemdog said...

Exactly, ajmlx9.

If the Reds had taken the lead 2-1 in the 7th . .

How many more pitches would Dusty have let him throw?

110?
120?
More?

 
at 9:13 AM Blogger Rob Dicken said...

I'm tired of errors from Encarnacion (even if it wasn't scored that way it should have been). It cost several extra pitches that inning. Get him out of there!!!!

According the the fans of Cincinnati, EE is the reason every run is scored in every single game against the Reds. Lay off the dude already! The season is young, and he will come around. Encarnacion doesn't make many fielding errors. The majority of his errors are throwing errors and he didn't make any of those tonight, did he? If it wasn't scored an error, then it wasn't an error, so no need to complain about it.

That's true, but he also only has 2 hits. I realize the season is young, but the last couple years I read a lot about predictions of EE having a breakout season. Just wondering how you can sit Keppinger down while we wait on EE to "breakout".

The Reds have played 8 games this season, so it's way too early to jump to conclusions. Be patient with EE, he will come around. And Keppinger hasn't sat out yet. Worry about that when the time comes around. Dusty will find a way to keep his bat in the lineup.

same reds as always they dont hit home runSSSSSS they dont win no matter how good the pitching. any chance this team wins more than 80? only in its dreams.

We've played 8 games. Chill out.

How about inserting Hatteberg into the 7 spot to play 1B after pinch hitting for Votto.

Shouse, a left handed specialist, was in the game. Dusty needed a right handed bat. Hopper wasn't going back out in the field, so Hatteberg was inserted into the 7th spot. There's not really much else to do there.

He left him in because he deserved a chance to get the win?

I don't see how Cueto isn't pinch hit for if Dusty knew that he'd be on a short leash anyway.


That could be questionable, but that didn't lose the game for us. Cueto was pitching good...he did deserve the chance to win the game, even if he wasn't pinch hit for.

Cueto moved the runner over anyway. Not so "bone-headed" after all. Not sure if there's really much worth debating here.

 
at 9:14 AM Blogger the wayward o said...

nice to see corey patterson picking up a new club.

we liked him in balto. a lot.

 
at 9:16 AM Blogger robby said...

How can anyone blame Baker for the loss? The Reds lost because they can't hit. They still have a line-up of free swingers who do not typically hit well in the clutch. Same team as last year and the year before and the year before...The pitching may be better but if you can't consistently hit in the clutch what difference does it make? For those who think the team is headed in the right direction, other than Jay Bruce what everyday player is close to being ready for the majors? Pitching wins championships, but a team has to be able to score without hitting home runs. I don't see any indication the organization is close to figuring that out. Maybe Dan O'Brien's five year plan wasn't far off afterall.

 
at 9:17 AM Blogger MarktotheHtotheB said...

Agree with Sandman - Dunn's bobble was huge. Unfortunately, the Brewers are obviously prepared to test Dunn. Also, I have to give credit to the Brewers' defense - it was great last night.

 
at 9:50 AM Blogger Steve said...

We'll chalk that game up as "Dusty Loss #1". Questionable managerial decisions all the way through..

What game were you watching? Blaming Dusty for the loss last night is pure farm product. The Reds aren't hitting. They left 11 runners on. They're hitting .232 as a team. Below .200 -- Adam Dunn (.130), Norris Hopper (.1250, Scott Hatteberg (.071), Edwin Encarnacion (.083) are struggling.

EE struggled in ST and he's not found his stroke now. Short leash!

Even though we loss, it was a great game. Lots of intensity.

 
at 10:04 AM Blogger Steve said...

Please compare Dunn's handling of the run-scoring blooper that he bobbled with Junior's hustle and hold defense an inning later on a similar bloop single.

Excellent Point! Once again, Dunn's suspect "D" costs us. Griffey made the play, Dunn didn't.

 
at 10:15 AM Blogger JerBear said...

Maybe it was just my Reds bias, but I thought the strike zone for Gagne was quite big at times. Some of the umpires these days are a little sketchy.

Although we lost, I don't know if the Brewers can be too comfortable with Gagne as their closer for the rest of the season.

I personally think we gave Cordero too much money, but I certainly like him over the course of the year better than Gagne.

It's almost like Milwaukee didn't pay any attention to Gagne's performance in the second half of last year with the Red Sox before giving him 10 million to pitch this year.

For the Reds sake, and for the NL Central's sake, hopefully Gagne has a rough year!

 
at 10:26 AM Blogger ankurv5 said...

I'm alright with the decisions Dusty made, the only one I would have changed was batting Hatteberg against Gagne instead of Free Free.

What I'm thinking though is that maybe Corey Patterson should bat second and Keppinger first? Keppinger is a singles and doubles machine, and CP tries to hit for power. It would take speed away from the leadoff, but it would add a LOT of OPS. What do you think?

 
at 10:28 AM Blogger Joe said...

Gotta get Dunn and EE going. The Reds are gonna score more runs than they have in the first 8 games. Dunn has typically started fast but he is struggling to get it going this year. Should be fun to watch when they start hitting.

 
at 10:28 AM Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

I never thought the day would come, but kudos to Ken Griffey Jr for finally putting a bunt down. Let's hope he sees fit to do it again tonight.

Is Dunn still sick? or just in one of his famous 'funks'. Why can't he bunt one down the left side? Either way he should sit a game.

EE needs to sit for a couple of games. He will come around, but this crap every year is real old already. A few days (but just a few) of Freel at third might be just what EE needs.

Time for Votto to play first base every day (unless you want to put him in LF for a game). Unfortunately it is time for Hatteburg to go. Need a RH bat on that bench and to back up first base, ie Andy Phillips.

Platooning Keppinger at first base if Gonzalez comes back is a stupid idea. Joey Votto is the first baseman. Lets try not to teach him that he can't handle lefties.

Let's just say, some very strange managing last night.

David Weathers is a mop up man, need to learn that quickly Dusty.

Last rant: Somebody shove a rag in George Grande's mouth. Do you not think that after 75 years doing baseball or whatever, he would be able to judge a fly ball just once in a while. Does Chris Welch just make up stuff as he goes along and forget the idiotic point he is trying to make before he finishes. When is the next TV game with Brantley and Brennaman?

ST CSA

 
at 10:30 AM Blogger Red Faced said...

Mixed Feelings.

It's so good to see Cueto do so well and overall the bullpen also.

It's troubling though watching these kind of games and knowing that the offense didn't do their job. Left a LOT of guys on base, we need some timely hitting here gang. Perhaps I'm starting to see Dusty's point a little better when he talked about the big bats settling for walks and clogging the bases. Those guys need to be driving in runs and unless the bases are loaded you aren't going to do that by walking. Our offense is better than this. This is a game we could have and should have won. We need to start doing so or come September we'll be regretting it.

I'm still very happy with the start but would have liked to see us pull out that game last night.

 
at 10:31 AM OpenID spmancuso said...

Don't forget that Adam Dunn's misplay of a routine single gave up the first run. That's another example of his poor defense not showing up as an E but yet proving costly.

Why pinch hit for Votto, who is at least hitting decently well, but not pinch hit for Encarnacion, who isn't hitting anything? Plus pinch hitting for Votto used up Hopper and Hatteberg (who could not pinch hit).

Why substitute Ryan Freel, who isn't hitting, for Junior, who is hitting well, just for the sake of moving the pitcher's spot in the lineup? This sacrifices defense and hitting if that line up spot comes up again.

Why pinch hit Valentin for Bako when Bako is hot at the plate, Valentin can't run, and Valentin is even a bigger liability than usual behind the plate in late innings?

 
at 10:33 AM Blogger Matthew said...

With EE's errors he has to hit 400 to make up the difference.Sit him down. Also, I'm fed up with Dunn's approach in the field which is lazy and I just can't accept that.Slumps happen and that is forgivable but he needs to show some hustle out there as a veteran
and lead by example....he's certainly compensated well enough.

 
at 10:35 AM Blogger docproc said...

John:

I'm surprised that your neither your Enguirer article nor your blog posting mentioned a key play in the third inning. The runner that Kendall knocked in should have been dead at the plate. He was just rounding third when Dunn reached the ball in shallow left field--and then bobbled it and made no throw. A routine play and throw would have preserved Cueto's shutout at that point.

It won't show up in the scorebook, but it was another example of how Dunn's defense (or lack thereof) hurts this team.

 
at 11:06 AM Blogger Rob Dicken said...

I think those who are giving EE some slack are mistaken. "Wait till you see his numbers at the end of the year" they say. Well, when he started putting those numbers up in the past few years the Reds were already out of it. No pressure. The kid played winter ball and was sensational. He comes to spring training and looks like he has no clue. I say when Agon comes back, they move Kepp to third and EE to Lousiville or wherever.

That's purely coincidence. Out of it or not, he was a clutch performer the last 2 years and won the Reds A LOT of games.

In 2006, the Reds were not out of it until the last month of the season, so your comment really doesn't make any sense.

 
at 11:21 AM Blogger Brendan T said...

The biggest issue I had was Weathers coming out for a second inning, but I guess that kevinftmyers brings up a good point, it was the first game of a long road trip, so the fewer relievers you use, the better. I would've felt more comfortable in the 10th with someone else out there though. He did great in the 9th, but I don't feel confident in him going two.

 
at 11:29 AM Blogger Rob Dicken said...

With EE's errors he has to hit 400 to make up the difference.Sit him down.

He didn't make an error. The ball was hid sharply enough and out of Encarnacion's way that the official scorer scored it a base hit.

Let's get off this subject, please. Too many postings about this just to nitpick EE. Focus on something else, people!

 
at 11:46 AM Blogger Red Faced said...

Deserves mentioning:

Yes I wholeheartedly agree, Dunn cost us a run by bobbling that ball in left field the runner had no chance to score on that had he not.

 
at 11:58 AM Blogger davetest said...

It was nice to see Griffey bunt when the shift was on. Now if Dunn could do the same - we can win the small ball.

 
at 12:00 PM Blogger davetest said...

Griffey and Dunn can make the teams pay by bunting down third when the shift is on....SMALL BALL BABY!!!

 
at 12:07 PM Blogger 24/7 said...

Keppinger should have gotten to that single that led to the first run on the dunn bobble-debacle. still, guys besides keppinger, bako, jr and phillips need to start hitting. Weathers for 2 innings might have been questionable, but otherwise dusty's decisions were sound. I probably bring in Mercker in the 9th then Weathers in the 10th. You gotta think that the way this reds team has fought late and the way the milwaukee bullpen is leaking like it's intentional that you can get something going before the 13th.

Dunn has looked good in his approach, but has put some poor swings on the ball in moments where he just needs to move a runner. And how does Hopper not get a bunt down to get a run in? I don't care who's charging, one of the best bunters in the league has to be in a bunting situation there. It's encouraging that the reds have been in every game, but disappointing to see them lose at least three they should have had. I will remind, this team ain't hit the broadside of a barn this time last year, and by June they heated up to scorching all the way through August. And that lineup wasn't as good.

If Fogg gets abused today, bring Belisle up. 3 or 4 more starts for Bailey, and by then you can see where Belisle is. If he's not getting it done, bring up Bailey and slide Belisle to the pen. He's been there before, and I just don't feel comfortable with Homer's delivery and propensity to be a hittable-early, in-the-groove late type of pitcher, so he might not be great out of the pen. Somebody has to get it done in Fogg's spot, even though Arroyo was bad last time, Fogg just sticks out like a sore thumb. He's so 07, nothing like what we've seen in 08. "THAT'S the guy we can beat up" is what other teams are saying when they look at Fogg in our otherwise solid rotation. I just hope Bailey can get it together soon. That would be like adding another Volquez, while subtracting a Milton. SHOULD that happen, I don't think it's a question if the Reds can contend, but if the Reds will win the pennant.

Last comment...when did Jack become the voice of reason on here?

 
at 12:14 PM Blogger Richie Rich said...

Edwins range makes up for the occassional throwing error. He steals hits. Let's move on.

From another poster:

What I'm thinking though is that maybe Corey Patterson should bat second and Keppinger first? Keppinger is a singles and doubles machine, and CP tries to hit for power. It would take speed away from the leadoff, but it would add a LOT of OPS. What do you think?

Swapping a guy who can't get on base with a guy who can might move some OPS to the leadoff spot, but that doesn't really help. Whether Patterson makes his out batting 1st or 2nd doesn't matter. He's a 7th hitter at best. The timely home runs have been welcome, but they may not have been so necessary if he was doing what a good leadoff hitter should do (get on base) and giving us scoring opportunities.

 
at 12:34 PM Blogger Brendan T said...

One other positive from last night's game.... it was GREAT to see the Reds in high def!

 
at 1:36 PM Blogger reaganspad said...

Wow, sounds like we are 0-8. Time to fire Dusty and Krivsky, right?

Actually, those 2 guys are playing well. Sending Homer out was a great move. Looks like Patterson is the second coming of Mike Cameron. The 2 RBI's and he was robbed on the steal. Loved his drag bunt single 2 games ago.
And Bako will be with this club all year. Boy are the pitchers comfortable with him.
I thought Phillips shot to RF in the 6th was gone. he just missed that 3-1 hanger in the 8th.

Griffey is doing fine, Dunn is very close to breaking it open, and great job Joey Votto.

Who would have figured that Hatteberg would go from 400 to 071 to start the year. Must be Dusty and Krivsky fault...

 
at 1:46 PM Blogger T-Mac said...

Let's face it. The Brewers made the critical defensive plays and the Reds did not (thanks again Dunner). Weathers is Stanton in sheeps clothing. Move Kepp to third when Gonzo returns. I am not of the opinion that EE has any more potential to reach . . . he is what he is, an average 3rd baseman.

 
at 1:56 PM Blogger tom dunne said...


Swapping a guy who can't get on base with a guy who can might move some OPS to the leadoff spot, but that doesn't really help. Whether Patterson makes his out batting 1st or 2nd doesn't matter. He's a 7th hitter at best. The timely home runs have been welcome, but they may not have been so necessary if he was doing what a good leadoff hitter should do (get on base) and giving us scoring opportunities.


Riiight. Patterson leads the team in homers and RBI, but somehow his performance is an issue. His OBP in 28 plate appearances is .285, no good. Let's bump him up to a respectable .357 OBP (about what Curtis Granderson did for the Tigers last year.)

That's two walks. Patterson is currently two walks off a .357 OBP pace. Those game-tying and winning homers might not be necessary, if he just got two more walks. Sure thing.

Patterson's not a leadoff hitter, but he's also not the reason this team isn't scoring runs.

 
at 2:01 PM Blogger reaganspad said...

I agree 24/7, Jack is becoming reasonable. Could be the fact that we are 500 and everyone thinks we should be doing better.

Hart was jammed on a 2-2 inside pitch, "fought that off and snuck it by Keppinger at SS" is Grand's call. He hit it OK, but I thought his bat broke.
That is the debate that we have been having, not Kepp's bat, but his range and the DP at SS.

Sure am thankful that Cordero is in our pen. Gag's is 1-3 in save opps.

 
at 2:46 PM Blogger JackBlueAsh said...

nothing wrong with Keppingers range and/or arm.. go to the ballpark and actually watch him play..hes fine

I am not the voice of reason..I just think its funny how..after a week and a half.. people are already complaining..many of the same people that were trashing me for being realistic

reagan we are less than two weeks into the season..at this point in time our record is meaningless

I have been impressed with Cueto, Volquez, Keppinger, and Cordero..club should do better this year..as John Fay agrees.. a ten game turnaround would be great

 
at 3:56 PM Blogger reaganspad said...

jack, when the games count, the record is never meaningless.

We are hitting at 220. We will not be there at the end of the year.

EE, Hatte and Freel are all under 100 now, that will not last.

EE's OBP is 333... maybe he should lead off moving Patterson and Kepp down in the order :)

 
at 4:34 PM Blogger JackBlueAsh said...

reagan..winter is over..quit over analyzing everything..let Dusty take care of that

just enjoy the ballgames..meet us at the ballpark..water on us

 
at 6:46 PM Blogger reaganspad said...

Jack. You do realize that this is the international sign for the smiley face

:) Or do you prefer :>)

either way, you are fined for missing the sign, Jack

:)

 
at 7:40 PM Blogger Dave said...

I was completely flambergasted when Griffey bunted!
When's the last time he did that? Ever?
If Dusty could make that happen, there is HOPE.

 
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