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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Sunday, April 20, 2008

Weathers on the DL

Reds general manager Wayne Krivsky said pitcher David Weathers is on the disabled list beginning today.

Weathers came out of Saturday's game with a sore right elbow. An MRI last night was normal, but he went on the 15-day disabled list with ulnar nerve irritation in the elbow.

“We’re going to put Weathers on the DL,” Krivsky said. “With (Matt) Belisle being active tomorrow…whether there’s something else, we’ll see. But right now, Weathers will go on the DL starting today."

No other roster move was made.

“We’re just one short today. Everybody’s available,” Krivsky said.


at 12:09 PM Blogger mentalmidget said...

I know our beloved Reds had to call up somebody for Weathers. I also know Matt Belisle has been pitching well in AAA. I, for one, hope he does well. I root for our "local nine", no matter who is in the line-up. But how many chances does Belisle get? He will give you a quality start from time to time. But most of the time, wow, he can also get shelled, BIG TIME! Now my observations are based on Belisle starting. He might prove to be a hell of a set-up man, if he has changed something. I've posted how I think he would be a mop-up guy, at best. But since he's pitched so well in AAA, give him a chance at set-up. I don't think he can do as worse as Weathers has since March 31. Fogg? WOW! Fogg is your number 5 guy? One more time he takes a good beating, again, ONE MORE TIME, and Homer Bailey gets a nod, as long as he's been doing what he's been doing.

How much longer does the "2007 Minor League Player of the Year" have to play at AAA. You could put him in at LF or CF today and that kid could do better than Dunn or Patterson or whoever. I still CAN NOT believe our Reds signed Patterson for &3 million!!!! Someone should be held accountable for that!!

at 12:21 PM Blogger 24/7 said...

does arroyo have options? can he go to the dl please? no? well how bout coffey?

very interesting piece on contracts, john. big bob's gotta be keeping a running tab of all the money he's throwing in the furnace. if this squad doesn't make an october run, that receipt might cash him in. i don't think it's all krivsky's fault whatsoever but still...if this team wants to win they have to get some live arms up here and cut/trade some guys. our crafty guys aren't doing so well thus far (weathers, arroyo, fogg).

at 12:56 PM OpenID dudeworldorder said...


Frank Thomas has been cut loose by the Blue Jays.

Do you think the Reds should sign him? Do you think they will try to?

The Reds have been needing some right handed pop, he's had over 200 RBI since 2006.

at 1:08 PM Blogger HoosierVirg said...

I went to the game yesterday, didn't see anyone dogging it, everyone still given there all. Tough time right now, we get good pitching with bad hitting then good hitting with bad pitching, team out of synch, hopefully things will get together soon. It is so frustrating for both the team and the fans. Speaking about eating contracts, look at what the Blue Jays are doing with Frank Thomas's contract, in the present atmosphere in baseball lots of teams have to eat some contracts.

at 1:16 PM Blogger ryan said...

Yeah Arroyo has some options. He needs to concentrate on throwing baseball instead of playing that guitar and doing cheesy commercials. Its a little to early to give up on him but it seems to me like last year, every time a pitch leaves his hands it seems like its going to get pounded. Josh Fogg is horrible! He needs to be sent home not to AAA.

at 1:46 PM Blogger robby said...

Reading the posts the last couple days has been interesting. Realizing the Reds are stuck with Griffey and his contract gives Krivsky a little bit of an out, but the bottom line is that aside from some improvements in the pitching, the team plays the same uninspired fundamentally poor baseball today that it played when Krivsky got the job. Maybe there is a horde of talent in the minors just waiting in the wings to turn this franchise around, but that is just speculation at this point.

So if it is not Krivsky's fault that the culture and character of this team have not changed, who's fault is it?

The contractual mistakes that have been made are mind boggling for a franchise that can't afford to make those type of mistakes. Those are on Krivsky, except for Griffey.

And barring a trade who will be the starting outfielders for the Reds next year when Griffey and Dunn are likely gone? Who drafted Drew Stubbs with their first number one pick? Who traded Hamilton for a number 4 starter? Who let Cantu walk when there were no decent right handed hitters with pop to come off the bench? Maybe Cantu was not the answer but shouldn't he have been kept instead of Castro? Who gave Castro his contract?

Anyway, anything less than 81 wins this year and Krivsky will be gone. I know it's been mentioned before by me and others but I'll never forget when Castellini, upon taking over as owner, explained his decision to relieve O'Brien of his dutes, by saying that O'Brien had a five year plan for returning the Reds to respectability and that it should not take that long. At this point he will be lucky if it turns around in 5 years.

For those of you who say the season is young, you are correct. But it is old enough to observe the same weaknesses that have plagued this team for 8 years now.

at 1:47 PM Blogger Mr. Doom and Gloom said...

was a good piece on the contracts...more than enough reasons there that wayne won't be running the show next year if the team loses 85-90 games again this year...hard to feel sorry for him, it's his mess

at 2:40 PM OpenID alphatheta678 said...

I think, at this point, writing Volquez off as a "number 4 starter" might be a little premature.

at 2:51 PM Blogger Greg said...

gotta tell ya... i'm sick of hearing cantu's name on here... move on people.

castro vs cantu coming off the bench... no question i'd rather have cantu's bat... castro might as well go up there with couple of toothpicks tied together... he can't hit... not sure who we need to bring up... trade for... but i do know this... cantu is gone and castro should be too. it'll be interesting to see what happens to the team when gonzo comes back... when is he supposed to be back again?

at 3:16 PM Blogger bsu1 said...

New lineup.
1. Keppnger ss
2. Votto, 1b
3. Encarcion, 3b
4. Griffey, rf
5. Dunn, lf
6. Phillips, 2b
7. Bako, c
8. Hopper, cf
9, pitcher
That gives your three hottest hitters getting the most at bats. Hopper is in the 8 slot similar to Kendall being in the 9th spot to generate hitting. When Hopp gets his stroke back then maybe back at leadoff as Kepp isn't the ideal leadooff.

at 3:19 PM Blogger Richie Rich said...

The contractual mistakes that have been made are mind boggling for a franchise that can't afford to make those type of mistakes. Those are on Krivsky, except for Griffey.

Contractual mistakes are Andrew Jones and Juan Pierre. A couple relievers making 2-3 million for 2 years isn't that big a deal. Complaining about Krivsky because 5 hitters in the lineup haven't lived up to their typical stats for 3 weeks is silly.

And barring a trade who will be the starting outfielders for the Reds next year when Griffey and Dunn are likely gone?

I'm not convinced Dunn will be gone. Unless there is someone on the free agent market who can fill his run production of 100 RBI and 100 runs every year, he shouldn't be gone. Bruce will be in RF.

Who drafted Drew Stubbs with their first number one pick?

Krivsky did. Have you seen his numbers lately? Also, who brought Phillips, Keppinger and Hamilton here for nothing?

Who traded Hamilton for a number 4 starter?

What's Volquez's ERA these days? Who leads Reds starters in wins?

Who let Cantu walk when there were no decent right handed hitters with pop to come off the bench?

Cantu stinks. Good riddance.

Maybe Cantu was not the answer but shouldn't he have been kept instead of Castro?

Arguable, but with the uncertainty around Gonzalez, you need a guy like Castro. Cantu can't play defense well anywhere, and certainly can't hit.

Who gave Castro his contract?

Is that really important? What's he making 1.8 or so? Peanuts compared to the average salary in the big leagues.

Bottom line is that Krivsky has made more good moves than bad, and if these hitters would man up and do their jobs, the Reds would be in much better shape this year.

One thing that you can complain about is Patterson, but Hopper and Freel certainly haven't shown us that they should be in CF either.

at 6:10 PM Blogger robby said...

Let's put it another way. The Reds problems on offense are not three weeks old. The problem with their offense which is an all or nothing approach goes back years and Krivsky has done nothing to change that dynamic on the team. The bad contracts go beyond the relief pitchers. Castro, Freel, are two examples. Arroyo looks awful and was given a relatively big contract. Gonzalez has been a bad signing. He is another swing hard and hope player and the Reds don't need more guys of that ilk. Anyway, we can agree to disagree. I give Krivsky credit for the Phillips, Keppinger and Hamilton moves. They were very good transactions. (although Phillips is another one who does not change his approach at the plate when behind in the count) My views on Krivsky have little to do with the Reds current record and much more to do with the organization's inability to change its approach to hitting, running, and defense.

at 6:22 PM Blogger mentalmidget said...


While Frank Thomas would normally a wonderful idea, keep in mind Gonzalez should (?) be back shortly. That's one more right handed bat in the line-up. Anyone in their right mind would move Keppinger to 3B, or dare I say, Gonzalez to 3B since Kepp has been playing, what, 4 out of 5 games at SS?

I've said it once, I'll say it over and over, I know blueashjack would agree,,,,,Kepp IS YOUR IEAL number 2 hitter!!! That kid can handle a bat!!! You can not keep him out of the line-up.

Are our beloved Reds any better with Patterson, or anyone else for that matter, better than "The 2007 Minor League player of the Year?!?!? I DO NOT think so!! If he has to lead off his first 2 years,,,,SO BE IT!! He needs be brought up! Enough is enough!! I still can't believe the front office was so naive to pay Patterson $3 million this year!

Congrats to Harang (8 innings pitched, 1 run allowed, 8 K's) and our beloved Reds!!

NOW let's get out of this FUNK!!!

at 9:12 PM Blogger kingseyeland said...

Cantu stinks? The guy got hurt after he had a big year, and it's taken him a while to get back on track. Helps if you come back from the DL and still have your job.

The guy's doing pretty well so far this year:


at 10:22 PM Blogger 24/7 said...

i too couldn't be more tired about the cantu thing, hamilton as well. it really is pointless to keep bringing those fellas up. they do not play for the reds and in keeping them and subtracting those added in their places does not make this team better.

phillips is very definite in shortening his swing when down in the count.

griffey hits a game winner in extras to avoid a sweep but he gets blasted for getting paid what he's worth. at the time, a lot of people blamed griff when he was injured because they were frustrated such a great player all of a sudden seemed cursed. but if you're still blaming griffey and the contract for the reds being bad the last few and struggling now, you won't be happy with anything but your own fantasy roster.

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