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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Sunday, July 22, 2007

Marlins 9, Reds 3

Reds manager Pete Mackanin got a dose of why the Reds are where they are the last three days in Miami. The Florida Marlins outscored them 30-5 to take the last three games of the series.

The Reds finished the 11-game road trip 5-6. They are 10-7 under Mackanin.

Reds starter Bronson Arroyo pitched decently Sunday but got little support. The Reds scored two run before they made an out -- on Jeff Keppinger's first homer as a Red. But the Reds did not score against until ninth. The Reds were 2-for-18 with runners in scoring position.

"That's unacceptable," Mackanin said, "just unacceptable. This missed opportunities made it whole different ball game."

Arroyo gave up a two-run homer to Mike Jacobs in the fifth and another to Dan Uggla in seventh. He went six-plus innings, allowing four runs on eight hits.

"Two mistakes," Arroyo said. "A 1-1 fastball down the middle and an 0-1 breaking ball. That's it. They beat me."

Arroyo left down 4-2.

But Mike Stanton gave up a run in the seventh. Then, for the second straight game, Kirk Saarloos started the eighth and failed to get out a batter. Of the last eight batters he's faced, seven have gotten hits, the other was hit by a pitch. It was 9-2 when Saarloos was replaced.

"What I see is a lot of bad pitches," Mackanin said. "It's not that these guys don't have the stuff."


at 4:36 PM Blogger redbeard said...

John is there really any reason why I, as a Reds fan, am forced to continue to watch vetern relievers Stone, Saarloos, and Stanton stink up the joint? If the Reds pen is going to bleed runs on a nightly basis can I at least watch the young arms in AAA pitch and learn at the major league level. I mean wouldn't everyone rather see Salmon, McBeth, and Bray in Cincy? Sure they may not fair much better than the aforementioned veterans, but at least it can be justified by saying that they are learning on the job for 2008. Heck, at this point, the Reds should consider this a blessing if they were able to learn this year and not next on the job.

While they are at it the Reds should also make sure they get extended looks at Votto, Bailey, Dumatrait, and E. Ramirez too. Please tell Wayne 2007 is a lost cause and it is time to look forward to 2008.

If Loshe is not going to be re-signed and if the option on Dunn is not going to be moved then trade them. I don't care what level prospect they bring in return it is justified. Move Stanton too. I'd say Hatteberg and Conine need to go while they have value too. Clear that space for Votto or maybe Keppinger could get some time at 1B too as a platoon.

WHATEVER WAYNE KRIVISKY DECIDES TO DO IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT 8 DAYS OR HE MAY HAVE A MUTINY OF REDS FANS ON HIS HANDS. (btw, I think Krivisky has done a pretty good job so far for the most part -- I do remember the Arroyo and Phillips trades as well as the Rule 5 pick ups --Hamilton and Burton, and other FA pick ups such as Hatteberg and Conine.

at 4:50 PM Blogger Mark T said...

Is this what they mean by regression to the mean? Is the mean that low? Are they really a bad team that played over their head for a few days? Sad to watch, but it does make trading away a few of these guys easier. Right now I'd take Farney over any one of these relievers.

at 4:51 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What I see is a lot of bad pitches," Mackanin said. "It's not that these guys don't have the stuff."

"The boys are playing hard....they never give up" Dick Lebeau

This is why we need someone from the outside with a fresh perspective.. The pitching stinks, in fact, they dont have the stuff. Time to wake up

They cant hit worth a darn with men on base... This team stinks

Been a long year.. I have gone to 18 games.. Hello football GO Bengals

at 5:10 PM Blogger John Fay said...

I agree. They've got to get Bray, Majewski, McBeth and Co. up here. Stone and Saarloos aren't likely to be part of the plan for 2008. Find out what the younger guys can do. I do expect move tomorrow.

at 7:13 PM Anonymous Justin Fernandez said...

Tomorrow is the first day of Spring Training 2008.

Thanks for the competitive team Bob!

at 8:12 PM Anonymous ADMS said...

John - please say that you'd add Coffey to the list. At least he didn't see any action today.
Side thought here - I thought the Expos had zero fan support when the fled the concrete tomb with the broken roof, but that was an insane amount of empty seats at Joe Robbie Stadium/Pro Player Park...er...Stadium/Dolphin Stadium (they should write new arena names in chalk at this point.) A black and white TV would probably ease the stain on the eyes from the sea of orange.
Oh well - we'll probably have to wait until September for our next four-game winning streak. It was fun while it lasted.
I don't think there's anything else that can be written about how pathetic this is. Unless releases, call-ups, and trades are made, what else can be discussed? They all stink up the joint.
The beatings will cease once morale improves.

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