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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Tuesday, July 31, 2007

No deals

John Fay reports that manager Pete Mackanin talked to general manager Wayne Krivsky shortly after the non-waiver trade deadline (4 p.m.), and Mackanin said that Krivsky told him the Reds didn't make any trades. The Reds did make one move. Catcher Chad Moeller was outrighted to Triple-A, and infielder Mark Bellhorn was called up.


at 4:27 PM Blogger Laura said...

Then does anyone know what the deal is with Dumatrait?

at 4:29 PM Blogger Leisure Suit Larry said...

How soon until Jocketty gets here?

at 4:33 PM Blogger Mr. PG said...

i guess hitting .243 in 88 games warrants a call up.

at 4:34 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a blockbuster! Krivsky should be burned in effigy at the town square. How he could not clear room for Votto, at the very least, is baffling. Why are Hatteberg, Conine, and Dunn still on this team?

at 4:38 PM Blogger The Spoon said...

The deadline has come and gone.

Now, the true drama and conflict begin.

Check this out.

at 4:38 PM Anonymous jordan said...

YES!!! We got Bellhorn!!!

at 4:38 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

You've got to be kidding me! The Reds didn't make any trades? How stupid are these people???

at 4:41 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

The baffling thing is we DON'T NEED an infielder brought up now. With Alex Gonzalez back, if we need anything, it would be an outfielder since we only have 4. But if Josh Hamilton is expected back soon, Bellhorn will be gone anyways....But why not just keep Moeller up until Josh Hamilton comes back...

Also, it's not like Bellhorn was tearing it up down there. If they wanted an infielder, why not Aaron Herr? Hes hitting about .290...

or Joey Votto??? I think that is his name? Where has he been.

at 4:42 PM Anonymous Brain said...

I agree. The reds blew a big chance today to take a step in the right direction by trading guys who have no future on a 2008 or 2009's winning reds team to get younger guys who might contribute to that team. This makes no sense to me at all. surely SOMEONE would have at least offered a high A or AA prospect for Hatteberg / Conine or Stanton / coffey?

at 4:43 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't ask Krivsky...you will get that classic "it takes 2 to trade" or "you know i can't answer that" answer. Another missed opportunity. (this statement hurts...)At lease leatherpants would have made deals for some 5-tool player we would trade later.

at 4:43 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great job Wayne! As awesome as this team has been playing all year, it's obvious there is no need whatsoever in shaking things up. Geez, talk about lame. How come one decade it's the Bengals and then the next decade it's the Reds? This is ridiculous.

at 4:47 PM Blogger Steven said...

How can you not trade Conine? He's going to retire a the end of the year. At least get a ball boy from a Class A team. Get something for him. Anything.

at 4:48 PM Blogger steve said...

Does this mean wayne is gone after the season? Did bob not let him make any moves or what? If Im wayne I would resign today if Bob is going to fire him any way.

at 4:49 PM Blogger RedsFanInMD said...

Relax. A lot of those guys you mentioned will probably be dealt in August. Every one of them will get through waivers.

at 4:59 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you can't get anything of value for Dunn, then it makes no sense to trade him. Don't pick up his option at the end of the year and get the compensation draft picks. This team already has power. What we need is an outfielder who can consistently put the bat on the ball and play some defense.

at 5:03 PM Anonymous Justin Fernandez said...

Krivsky held out for a good offer for Dunn from the Angels (and others) and the Angels didn't want to give up enough for Dunn, apparently So what's wrong? Giving away Dunn would have been stupid. Castellini has to find some cash now.

It's not Dunn's fault that the team stunk for the first half of the year. It's Castellcheapi's fault. Pony up, or sell the team!

If Dunn leaves and the Reds get two draft picks in compensation, well, they'd better be pretty good draft picks, or today will become another bad day in Reds trade-blunder history.

The Reds seem to have a knack for making really stupid trades and really brilliant trades.

At least we had no really stupid deal at the deadline today. At least Krivsky didn't throw someone good away for nothing!

at 5:13 PM Blogger Leisure Suit Larry said...

I am wondering if Castalinni doesn't trust Krivsky to make the kind of deals that needed to be done

at 9:54 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Today, in a weird way, was Wayne Krivsky's finest hour. Believe me, I've been one of Krivsky's staunchest critics. The acquisitions of Joe Mays and Kyle Lohse, and the Kearns/Lopez trade were very poor decisions with the benefit of hindsight, but Krivsky did have that benefit ... none of us do. But give credit where credit is due. Krivsky's attitude is fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. While he probably wanted to trade Dunn, Conine, Hatteberg, and possibly others, he wasn't going to sell something for nothing. His decision not to sell makes clear that other teams were unwilling to trade their highly valued prospects for the Reds' talent. Come August, other teams -- like the Cubs -- will get more desperate and will likely reconsider. In the meantime, Krivsky has decided that giving away Dunn or others to dump salary is not the way to go ... for now.

Were I covering the Reds for the Enquirer, I would ask Krivsky this question:

Wayne, in your trade discussions with other clubs, were any guys on the current 25 man active roster deemed off-limits? Krivsky can duck this question by saying he doesn't want to discuss particular players, but the question isn't who was off limits, the question is was ANYONE off-limits? If the answer to that question is not "no, no one was off-limits," we can all sleep well tonight. If, however, the answer is "some players were off-limits," then the organization made a very bad decision. The next question is why. Specifically, Wayne, without regard to which player(s) were off-limits, were they off-limits because you felt they should be off-limits or because Bob Castellini decided they should be off-limits. Krivsky can duck this question, but it would be nice to know if Bob Castellini protected Junior, like Carl Lindner protected Larkin, to the detriment of the organization. If he did, then Castellini should take ownership of this decision.

As far as Moeller being sent down and Bellhorn being called up, people, stop drinking the cool-aid! The Reds don't need 3 catchers, 2 lousy catchers is plenty. The Reds desperately need depth in the infield, and Bellhorn is a good glove, and a reasonably decent stick.

One last thought. Homer Bailey needs to be on this club. I know he's been erratic, but you gotta love the kid's enthusiasm, and he's got a better stick than David Ross.

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