Reds 9, Pirates 8
The Reds won the battle of the bad bullpens. It's not often you get a tying home run in the eighth and ninth and one to win it in the 1oth. But Jeff Keppinger hit one in the eighth, Edwin Encarnacion hit one in the ninth and Adam Dunn hit one in the 10th.
Dunn is up to 30 homers and 73 RBI, who almost two months to play.
The Reds needed all that fire power because Todd Coffey (one-third of an inning, three runs) and Michael Gosling (one-third on an inning, one run) were so bad. Pete Mackanin sounds like he wants changes.
“That will be a topic of discussion when I talk with (general manger Wayne Krivsky),” Mackanin said. “I don't want to go any further than that.”
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Gosling and "I need a burger" Coffey need to get and go. 3 choices-Guardado, Majewski, Bray-Get something done. And haven't the Reds cut a pitcher before for being overweight (RIP Josh Hancock)? Coffey was big before, but he just looks like he keeps adding pounds.
WOW ADAM DUNN IS ALMOST UP TO 30 HOMERS.. AND OUR RECORD IS WHAT JOHN FAY?
WE BEAT PITTSBURGH BIG DEAL THEY STINK ALSO
LETS HOPE PETE MAKANIN CONTINUES TO WORK HIS MAGIC..LETS SEE HES DOING ABOUT 2 OR THREE GAMES BETTER THAN NARRON? TOO FUNNY
I SIMPLY DONT UNDERSTAND WHY CERTAIN PEOPLE CANT ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THIS TEAM STINKS.. AND WE NEED MAJOR CHANGES
MY GOD WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF GRIFFEY AND DUNN GO? FANS WONT COME TO GAB WITHOUT KENNY G.. GIVE ME A BREAK THEY WILL MORE THAN COME IF WE HAVE A GOOD BASEBALL TEAM...
TIME FOR FOOTBALL YOU ALL CAN CONTINUE TO ACCEPT MEDIOCRITY
Coffey clearly needs help. Looks like he has skills but can't come close to helping his team other than mop-up roles. May a stint in Double A with less pressure and different scenery may help.
John,
I think it's abundantly clear that PM isn't happy with Coffey and Gosling, and I think previous management held that same feeling. Besides EZ who do bring up? Do you leave Dumatrait in the starting role or do you put him in the bullpen?
Do you think we're going to see Bailey back anytime soon?
if the reds sent coffey & gosling down who would come up? bray & guardado? you wouldn't want 2 more lefties. i can't see mcbeth coming back and please not stone!!
if the reds sent coffey & gosling down who would come up? guardado probably but that leaves one more righty. i don't see mcbeth coming and please, please don't bring stone back!!
I would like to direct a slightly modified quote from Ace Ventura and direct it to Todd Coffey:
It was all that [Todd Coffey's]fault, everyone knows that...[Todd Coffey] should die of gonorrhea and rot in hell. Would you like a cookie, son?
Pack his sorry, pathetic, worthless, overpaid and overused a** on the Sarlooser bus out of town and this time it doesn't stop in Louisville. I don't care if they drive it into the ocean or Grand Canyon or into one of the layers of hell. Just get him out of here now.
If he is still a Red when they come back to Cincinnati, I'm burning the rest of the tickets.
Can we get a formal letter of apology from the Reds (printed FRONT AND CENTER in the Cincinnati Enquirer) about this bum's extension???
Nice win last night...
What I had to write about Stanton would probably get me arrested so I'm trying to clean it up.
It's very nice that Pete wants some changes, but if he really wants a lasting change, he has to go over Krivsky's head to Castellini.
Krivsky put this bullpen together. Krivsky can't fix it.
Castellini can fix the problem by getting someone who can put a winning bullpen together.
Looking for a Reds plan of action?
Package Brandon Phillips in a deal for pitching. Why?
Because he makes lots of outs. He's really more of a bottom of the order type hitter with his .320-obp. The thing is, though, he has pretty numbers. Like 20 steals. He also has hit 20 home runs. But that has more to do with the ballpark he hits in.
You can plug Jeff K. in at second base without losing too much ability.
As the old adage goes -- You have to give up something to get something back. So take advantage of where our hitters get to hit and trade them for pitchers that can pitch.
Trade Brandon Phillips.
Any word on any changes in the bullpen..
They probably will wait untill tomorrow since they are coming home with an off day.
I think Eddie will be back this week.
I'm hoping we have a bullpen of:
Guardado
Weathers
Burton
Coutlangus
Bray
Majewski
Stanton(Because they won't DFA him)
That would mean Gosling, Coffey, and Santos go down.
I've been following the Louisville roster and Brad Salmon is getting hit pretty good. A lot of hits given up. McBeth has been better than him but he's not ready either.
I think that the Reds need to send Todd Coffey to a sports psychologist. If he's great in the minors and terrible in the majors, he must be choking on the major league pressure to make every pitch a perfect pitch (have I been listening to Jeff Brantley?). He has the talent and a contract for next year. What else can you do to help the guy?
What were Dunn's HR and RBI totals this time last year and in 05?
Mackanin is only 3 games better than Narron? More poor math skills, I see.
Mackanin 16-13 (.552)
Narron 31-51 (.378)
"What were Dunn's HR and RBI totals this time last year and in 05?"
Look it up yourself, lazy. You think this info is on the top of people's heads? The stats are free online.
11:44 anon .. Mackanin is only 3 games better than Narron? More poor math skills, I see.
Mackanin 16-13 (.552)
Narron 31-51 (.378)
you are comparing apples to oranges and actualizing what 82 games to 29 games.
My point was that Makanin has this team playing only three games over .500. Sorry about the misunderstanding..My bad.
Point is still the same Pete aint the answer. We have been there before with Narron and Miley
I rather listen/watch Bray, Gary M., and Eddie than Coffey, Gosling, Santos.
Between Eddie, Burton, and Weathers I think you can envision next years set up men and closer. Bray gives you a young guy with big league experience to tak eover for Eddie as the lefty to team with Burton for 09.
The bullpen for the rest of the year should be:
8th-9th inning closers
Eddie
Weathers
Burton
Everyone else
Belisle
Bray
Gary M.
Stanton (should be traded though. If traded insert Coutlagous to have 3 lefties)
That is a good bullpen (except Stanton) for 08. I would like to get another closer type at the top of his game, but those guys don't exist much anymore. It hard to go out and get a Randy Myers anymore.
As for Starters... it is hard for me to say start 3 rookies (or near rookies) for next year, so the Reds need to spend Miltons money on a quality #2-3 type, not a 3-4 type.
Harang
Arroyo
Homer
Livingston
and somebody... hopefully not a rookie.
Adrian
Is Coffey a gas can or a kerosene bomb... I can't tell. Wht do you think?
Whoever said to trade Phillips because of his 'pretty' numbers...you mentioned his 20 dingers and said look at where he plays.
of those 20 only 9 have come at GABP. So it isn't a case of he has good numbers becuase of his home ballpark.
I can't see them trading away a guy who plays GREAT defense and hits pretty well. He makes a lot of outs yes. I can't find a site that tracks everyones total outs but Brandon Phillips also has about 30 or so more plate appearences than anyone else on the team.
He's got tons of heart and desire to win and he wants to play for this team for a long time and he's showing what he can do in years to come right now. I don't really know if I could support trading him right now.
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