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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Monday, August 13, 2007

Ross to DL; Jorgensen coming up

The Reds will place catcher David Ross on the disabled list as the result of yesterday's collision with Mike Cameron.

The club will promote Ryan Jorgensen from Triple-A Louisville to take Ross' spot. Jorgensen, 27, was hitting .229 with two home runs and 26 RBI in 236 at-bats with the Bats. He played four games in the majors with the Marlins in 2005.


22 Comments:

at 8:00 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is Jorgensen a catcher or are we down to one now?

 
at 8:47 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

The KeyMuster is in the house!!!!!

 
at 9:47 PM Blogger John Fay said...

Yes, Jorgensen is a catcher.

 
at 10:22 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chad Moeller gets traded for cash considerations, and the Reds call up a guy no one has ever heard of, and who apparently has done nothing of note in the minors. Castellini was right. This club is right back in the thick of things, and Krivsky really is a genius. Excuse me John, could you please pass me the Felipe Lopez and the Austin Kearns? Thanks, man.

 
at 10:38 PM Blogger Duke of Paducah said...

Is Hal King available? Bill Plummer?

 
at 1:11 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Redszone.com's favorite son

 
at 1:46 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

John, do the Reds really have no better option than calling up Jorgenson? The guy has been a failure at every level, and will never be anything more than a lousy AAA player. This makes me scratch my head. The Reds' front office has really dropped the ball on their callups/send downs/waiver pickups this year. Jason Ellison deserves to be DFA'd right now. The guy is also a pretty bad ballplayer with no business in the Majors.

 
at 4:53 AM Blogger Grizzlyfox said...

Two weeks of Javier Valentin. Wow. Maybe the Cubs haven't scouted him and won't run on him, or they'll be very selective in looking at his stats and see that he threw out Jose Reyes, and not notice his stellar 7.7% of runners caught stealing. Or that when he catches the Reds pitchers era is 5.00, and for Ross it was 4.48(Ross also for his career is at 4.33, not bad as if that was the Reds team era they would rank 8th in the NL in era, and not 16th, while Valentin is at 5.09, which would put the Reds at 29th in MLB) And for anyone who thought Moeller's trade came at a bad time he was only throwing out 8.3% or runners, had a 7.17 era, and was hitting .167. Why was he even on the team? So the point is here, the next two weeks will not be pretty and we will not be catching up to anyone. Basement here we come!

 
at 7:11 AM Blogger John Fay said...

The Reds have Craig Tatum in AA and Miguel Perez at A Sarasota. I might have given one of them a look.

 
at 8:12 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with John. Miguel Perez seems like a guy who deserves a good long look. John, why do you suppose more younger guys are not getting a look at this juncture? Given the fact that the Reds are out of contention, why not give some guys like Joey Votto a look? Also, if the Cubs or Brewers called the Reds looking for a spare part, do you think the trade would get vetoed because these teams are in the same division as the Reds? Lastly, have you heard about any teams making a waiver claim on any of the Reds? Just curious. Thanks.

 
at 9:20 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to see the Reds field the best 8 fielding players as of right now. My thoughts are EE and Dunn would be on the bench. If I was manager, that is what I would do. Hopper, Hamilton, and Junior is the outfield. Kepp at 3B, Gonz at SS (hits better than EE), BP at 2B, and Hatteberg at 1B with someone behind the plate. :) I never thought I would say I miss the days of Bo Diaz and Joe Oliver behind the plate.

With Bruce a year away, lets trade Dunn so the Reds developing farm system can moving guys up. try to trade Conine to a contender for anything. I wouldn't trade Hatteberg though unless it was something good. Him and Votto and his backup makes sense. Depending on how the Reds feel about EE, you could trade him but he is young enough he still could go back to AAA after training camp next year.

Adrian

 
at 10:23 AM Blogger zfan said...

Miguel Perez looked like the catcher of the future a couple years ago when he was at Sarasota. He has a great arm. What happened to him?

 
at 11:09 AM Anonymous Justin Fernandez said...

Jorgenson, befitting of the Reds nutty lineup practices, is a prime candidate for batting cleanup.

The thing about the Banks' Neighborhood Clown Shop is not that they're having a losing season so much as it is that nearly everything they do makes little to no sense.

Let's reflect on just the LOWLIGHTS of 07 so far:

A clearly demoralized team sinks to 10 games under .500 and yet the manager (who clearly is lost in many ways) isn't fired until the situation worsens considerably.

Hamilton has a tummy ache--and gets put on the 15-day DL (I should be happy they didn't put him on the 60 day list) when he could have missed only 4-5 games he misses 10+.

Then when Hamilton is actually playing AAA ball just fine, post wrist-injury trip to the DL, the Reds sign a player who lacks major league talent, and actually START HIM, while Hamilton has to be "examined" by doctors (yet makes a pinch-hitting appearance in the game--that after playing several minor league games with apparently no problem).

Conine is repeatedly batted 4th despite having no power and practically turning into a pillar of salt before fans' eyes each night...

The lineup NEVER gets consistency but is still, long after Narron is gone, a jumble...constant changes in starting personnel and a new lineup du jour obviously work really well.

The list of teams that platooned nearly everyone while using 130+ unique lineups per year AND made the post season is really long, isn't it?

The Reds don't even draft a pitcher with their first draft pick (a really shocking transgression for a team that has next to NO ONE in the majors or minors that you'd even want on your little league team). The Reds early round draft picks are a joke: potentially great pitching is once again ignored on this offense-heavy (by comparison) team.

Keppinger, the hottest "real thing" young star sits on the bench for several games recently, as if the poor kid is exhausted--the pattern of over-rest for younger Reds players (resting Griffey is always a good thing) who have proven to be durable, especially when riding the crest of winning streaks, persists. Keppinger comes up and hits well, and the Reds keep benching him. The Astros didn't do that with Pence. The D-Rays didn't do that with Delmon. The Brewers didn't do that with Hart and Braun. Somehow the wisdom that every other major league team has, is ABSENT here!

Repeated public statements that leave fans baffled and annoyed, and demonstrate wishful thinking and a large "divorce from reality" on the part of Reds upper management.

It's one thing to have a bad season. Or Two. Or 17.

It's quite another to keep taking 1 step forward and 4 steps backwards. Especially long after you should KNOW BETTER!

Right now, the Reds are baseball's equivalent of Into Thin Air; except that instead of being close to summiting, the Reds seemingly trip just getting out of the tent at base camp every morning (well the good news is that the Reds can't lose possibly a World Series! Oh boy!)

No other team in MLB is run this poorly from top to bottom. Who gets the blame for that? Marge?

 
at 11:13 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're bringing up a catcher who will only be temporary and probably won't get into a game anyway. Why then impede a young guys development by having him warm the bench. Get real people... if you want to call the shots then find several million $ to invest in the club!!

 
at 11:48 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Didn't Votto used to catch? Has it been too long so he couldn't shake off the rust that soon?

 
at 12:02 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say we beg Eddie Taubensee to come out of retirement. There's a catcher that could hit, and his defense was certainly no worse than Valentin or Ross for that matter...

 
at 12:08 PM Anonymous Gary said...

Hi. I'm asleep down here in Texas. Was wondering why Griffey didn't get picked up at trade time.

 
at 12:29 PM Blogger Gregory said...

John, What do you make of the Adam Dunn comments about the Brennamans. Im not from Cincinnati so I don't have any ties to that family and I personally think they are partly to blame for all the negativity that surrounds this club. It isn't even enjoyable to listen to the sound when Thom is announcing a game. He makes baseball depressing. I know many people will disagree with this post but I personally know a lot of Reds fans that will turn the sound off when Thom is announcing. Brenly is no better. You don't say that a professional athlete chokes. Thats not acceptable and bad for that player and bad for the reds. I've never heard your broadcasting abilities but atleast you are positive on your blog. Why don't you try announcing.

 
at 1:01 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keppinger is a hot hitter in general. The fact is we don't want to move EE out becuase he is just as much of a young hitter who has a high ceiling of potential. When EE is seeing the ball well he can be a nasty doubles hitter just like he did last year. His defense has been getting better.

Your comment about Hamilton having a tummy ache is just stupid. This is what he had

"Gastroenteritis is a general term referring to inflammation or infection of the gastrointestinal tract, primarily the stomach and intestines.It can be caused by infection with bacteria, viruses, or other parasites, or less commonly reactions to new foods or medications. It often involves stomach pain (sometimes to the point of being crippling), diarrhea and/or vomiting, with noninflammatory infection of the upper small bowel, or inflammatory infections of the colon."

Source:Wikipedia.com

that is no tummy ache, but I guess you'd rather have him run out on the field crap his pants then dehydrate than get the rest he needs to get over it.


Lineup changes happen with every single MLB team.The Reds are really about on par or just a slight bit above what every other team has done in terms of different line-ups(most are between 55-60, we're at 64). But if you want, you can keep using that arguement like it actually matters. Last year St. Louis used over 100 different line-ups. They won the World Series. Tigers used 92. Some teams can go the year not changing the line-up too much frankly...why would you want a line-up of the same players when you are in a losing season at this point?

 
at 2:43 PM Blogger Matt said...

Jorgensen is a defensive catcher and Hanigan will play at AAA more consistently. Let's not cry over having to use Valentin, who has a .341 with risp. He averages a stolen base allowed per start so in my opinion his low percentage doesn't alter the game drastically. I think his percentage will improve, especially if the pitchers help him. His previous years' percentage wasn't that bad.

 
at 4:19 PM Blogger John Fay said...

I've been surprised that they haven't moved on to next year and looked at some younger players -- Votto in particular. If someone like Santos starts the 18th instead of Cueto, they'll really get hammered by the fans and rightfully so.

 
at 4:26 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

John,
I agree 100% with what Gregory said about the announcers. The Brennamans are so negative about the club even if things are going good that day for the Reds they will still bring up negative things that happen in games played before. They are the most negative announcers that I have every listen too. I will not listen to any of the Reds announcers because they are so negative. I only watch the game. In my eyes that are not hall of frame announcers.

 
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