Cunningham apologizes
WLW host Bill Cunningham visited the Reds clubhouse today to apologize to Adam Dunn for a remark Cunningham made on his show Friday.
"I apologized," Cunningham said. "That's all I'm going to say about it. I made a mistake."
Cunningham said Dunn was "drunk" when he missed a base and misplayed a ball in a game in Pittsburgh.
Dunn pretty much takes all criticism.
"Say I stink, I suck, whatever," Dunn said. "But when my mom's friend hears it and calls her. Then (my mom) calls me crying her eyes out . . . That's over the line. People believe that stuff."
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Man Adam's mom seems to not be able to handle much. I don't mean it negatively but if a comment like that makes her cry then wow.
Maybe Adam and his mom should cry all the way to the bank. LOL. It was very funny, maybe a bit over the line with the drunk part, but anyone who believed it has the IQ of a monkey in LF.
C'mon Adam, don't become another Griffey cry baby.
Why is Cunningham apologizing to Dunn? Maybe he should start apologizing to all other people he offends. He is constantly over the edge. I guess Reds players get special treatment.
Yea, Cunningham was a bit out of line Friday. He must have said it 30 times or so... He also called for Griffey to appologize before ever playing again. He wanted him to turn in his uniform.
To me, what he said about Dunn was clearly slander if it wasn't true.
Crying....There's no crying in baseball. Whining...there IS whining in baseball. Grow up!!!
Now if only Cunningham would apologize to everyone else he's offended at one point in time. Idiot. Don't go to Willie's!
This is the second time Adam's Mom has been upset (remember Dunn calling out the Cowboy and Thom?). She sure listens to alot of radio...
i agree with dunn...somethings are over the line. dunn is a good guy and things like this, hurt his reputation.
Bill - you were probably drunk when you apologized to Adam. You sound like a drunkin’ sailor on your radio show. If Mom call’s you crying because she read this -I apologize to her (She sounds like a great Mom)
Cheers
I won't defend what Cunningham said, but I would advise Adam to never sign with the Yankees, Mets, Phillies or Boston. If he can't take some over the top criticism from one local talk show host, then he wouldn't last a day on the East Coast.
Part of Dunn's multi-million dollar contract includes taking criticizm. Let's face it, he's not the most gifted or hard working athlete, but he is paid as if he were. When he makes mistakes that little leaguers shouldn't get away with, he should be called on the carpet and take responsibility for his lazy style.
Point-blank, Dunn gets paid way to much to be a professional who plays like an ametuer at times. He's got to get consistent and he has to work hard if he wants to avoid criticizm. Until then, Dunn has accepted his role as a celebrity, which means he is in public spotlight and will have to take criticizm and if he can't take it, then quit! Get out of the game and out of the spot light. He wants to be praised for his homeruns, but doesn't want any one to talk about his lacking game! What a baby!
I'm not a fan of Willie, but Dunn gets about $10 million (sson to be $13 million) reasons a year to let stupid stuff like that roll off his back.
His mom? Please.
Look at Cunningham showing some all out class and apologizing to Dunn. Dunn's mom will never be able to listen to the radio again.
Sounds like slander to me. Why else would Cunningham be so quick to apologize.
I agree. Maybe if Dunn-key started paying attention more on how to play the game and stop worrying about what the media says then he wouldn't have to worry about his insecure mom. That goes for Bronson "kid rock" Arroyo as well. You're paid to play ball; act like it!
Ditto on that comment regarding the east coast.
And, if Dunn does ever find himself on the Yanks, Mets, Red Sox or Phillies I sure hope his mom never reads the blogs because they're way worse than anything on talk radio.
Maybe Dunn should go play in New York. Then his mom would really have something to listen to. She would probably cry every day as Adam would be getting ripped on the national stage. How many moms cry when they hear that their 28 year old son was drunk anyway? I'm not saying that it is right to be drinking on the job, but if he does, that is a decision and he is old enough to make it for himself. Or maybe Dunn is using his mom's tears to make us all feel sorry for him. Hmmmmmmmmmm.
God, I hope that little crybaby and his mom go to a big market soon. That will be great!
man, i miss the old days when journalists didn't have to apologize to millionaire athletes for harmless remarks. what a joke. i've been called worse and will never make a fraction of what dunn makes in one season. he could not be a bigger pompous, diva, crybaby. and i'm sure his mom will find some comfort in the millions of dollars her disposal. good riddance, dunn family! get some perspective!
Well, I guess fans need something to talk about if the team's management and play are so pathetic year in and year out with the constant excuse of "small market" (though not so small they can't afford to throw money at pitchers who can't cut it).
Sure wish we could talk about a winner for once. Or, you know, we could just keep talking about the Big Red Machine of more than 30 years ago.
Then again, there's always the Nasty Boys. That was just 17 years ago.
That near miss in 1999 was a really special team, back 8 years ago.
Seven straight losing seasons...worse than the early 1980s, folks. We don't talk about that enough.
wa-wa-wa-wa. poor adam and his mommy. some mean man called me drunk. my job is so hard. everybody hates me. woe is me. my life is so tough. wa-wa-wa-wa. mommy!
Hey Mrs. Dunn, boo frickitty hoo :(
Some people miss the point: Dunn is one of the few people who would like to maintain some integrity. It's not all about the money he makes. When someone accuses his decency as a person, he has the right to speak up and defend himself.
Pay me millions each year and call me what ever you want to. I think my mommy would understand that its all part of the deal.
Wow...all of you need to put yourselves in an athletes perspective just one time...I guarantee that most of you have never played beyond a high school sport and don't understand what its like to have the media on your back. Yeah he's getting paid big bucks and all but he's still human!! On top of this, you didn't understand the article. Dunn had NO problem with what happened. He referred to the problem of his MOTHER being the one that was upset. Put some sense into your heads before you speak!!
Looks like we had a wanna-be lawyer chime in at 11:11 AM. Hey genius, Adam Dunn is a PUBLIC FIGURE. People who are public figures have a much more difficult standard of proof in slander cases. Part of being in the public eye includes suffering the slings and arrows of outrageous commentators. In this case, Cunningham knew he went over the line and so he apologized. End of story.
I think that's exactly the point. Dunn has no problem with people ripping him. This is a different issue. One involving libel.
Willie was probably given the option:
Apologize to Dunn or join the Furball.
God forbid a Reds or Bengals player isn't treated with kid gloves on that station.
Cunningham didn't say Dunn was drunk, he said he was playing like he was drunk. The simple metaphor describes most of the Reds and the pathetic season!
Maybe if Dunn would tag all the bases and make routine catches (like a pro baseball player should) he wouldn't get comments from Clowns like Cunningham!
Critcism is one thing, a false accusation is quite another. Looks like Cunningham's mouth got him in some hot water with a slanderous comment.
What Adam should have said was, "It took a lot of class for Bill to apologize and to apologize in person. I gladly accept his apology. Let's play ball!"
Instead, he milked the sympathy crap as he told a sob story that may or may not have been true about his mother.
When people make apologies, accept them and move on. Obviously forgiveness is not a quality "nice guy" Dunn is familiar with.
I listened to the show when Mr. Cunningham made the comments. I thought they were hilarious and I still do today. He was spot on and funny while making his point. It was good radio which is his job. Adam Dunn should now focus on doing HIS job.
First I gotta say that I love Willie. I like Dunn too, but he sure does frustrate me often with his lack of hustle. Willie's comment was no big deal. Kind of funny actually. And that is what Willie is paid to do!! That's why people listen (and he has one of the highest rated shows in the area). In fact, that is why he now going national! Willie didn't need to appologise for anything. He didn't use any profanity, etc... He simply gave his observation and calls it like he sees it...
Adam Dunn playing for the Reds is his job. Someone accused him of being drunk on the job. If that were anyone else, they would've been fired. That's a very serious accusation. If he's performing badly, that's one thing. It was out of line. Don't rag on his mom either. Unfortunately our city's athletes don't have the greatest reputation. She was probably reprimanding him!
Remember, she can't listen to Marty or Thom either.
You know, you'd think someone getting paid that much money they'd realize they were in the public spotlight.
Bill Cunningham has a long history of hateful rhetoric. As hurtful as this comment was, it is nothing compared to all of the racist hate-speech that has come out of his mouth. The guy should be ridden of of town, plain and simple...
Cunningham did say that Dunn was drunk. Over and over and over agian. It wasn't a quick slam. It was a constant hammering. Dunn has done some good for the Reds , granted he's not top shelf anymore but he has come through in a pinch. Cunningham should go the way of Furman. He was extremely out of line. But then the Big One has been out of line a lot lately. Give Dunn a break. And WLW should give Cunningham a break from the mic.
Libel? Slander?
I have a clue for some of you (including you, Mr. Fay, who should know better), when Jonathon Swift wrote "A Modest Proposal", her really did not mean that the babies should be eaten! It's called satire!
That's exactly what Willie is, a satirist. He is a "News entertainer," He is George Carlin, not Walter Cronkite.
We had a discussion about this at lunch. I don't think Dunn would win if he sued. Hyperbole is a defense with talk show hosts, i.e., if you say something so outrageous that no one would believe, you're OK.
I don't know if this qualifies. But I think it's interesting that Cunningham did apologize.
Hey John, He apologized because Adam Dunn is 6'7" and 300lbs. LOL.
Willie say things we all say everytime we watch the Reds play, Dunn is a terrible defensive player who wiffs twice a game, and JR has never hustled as a Red. The Reds are pathetic. All they had to do last year and this year play slightly better than .500 ball and you win the division. Instead another losing record with no end in sight. Willie is like alot of us who grew up in Cincy and played baseball and played it hard and hustled. We played because it was fun and most of us could play a better left field that Dunn. Dunn's Mommy is upset, now that sounds like a knothole mommy, not the mother of a pro player.
Bill Cunningham makes his money off of getting a rise out of people, he is about as talented as an SOS pad and most of the time he yammers on way to long about nothing. Adam Dunn puts up with a lot of lip service from many people calling for his head and bat on a platter. If this is one of the times he wants to stop and say...enough. So be it....
"a monkey with a football in LF"
Does this have racial undertones to anyone else or am I hyper-sensitive when it comes to Cunning-ham's racist, sexist, I'm-better-than-you-all, comments?
Is he referring to football players as monkeys? Where does Cunning-ham draw up the image of monkeys on a football field? What relationship does football players have to monkeys?
I think referring to Dunn as a drunk is bad, but I'd like Cunning-ham to explain who the heck he was calling monkeys that are playing football within the context of his usual racist rants?
(I just can't fathom where this imagery and language came to his mind without it not being base racism)
Thank Goodness Dunn stood up to Cunningham for his provocative comments.
For all those hitting on the mom - just imagine a group of little olld ladies being told by their husbands listening to the radio, hey your friends son was drunk on the field yesterday and lost the game making a fool of himself.
Folks, that's a whole lot different than Dunn choked during the game.
What about his kids?
Someone's advancement into the big leagues does not automatically subject them to defamatory comments that affect his family and could form a public impression of a man that could actually result in a lower salary and might exclude him from product endorcements.
Cunningham runs off at the mouth, saying horrific things about people without regard for the truth or consequences - and WLW promotes this garbage entertainment.
Monkeys with footballs racism? Oh my... you are really reaching for the stars. Dunn hadles a baseball not like is a small spherical orb that fits nicely into the nook of a baseball glove. Instead, he stumbles across the field like a nearsighted oaf chasing a ball with two pointy ends that is making off camber hops. Racist? Uh oh... Here comes Smitherman!
Anyway, he wouldn't get too much heat in NYC... they would only use him as a DH so he would only have a couple opportunities a week to be called a drunk monkey or whatever.
Anon 12:40, Cunningham was referring to an ol joke that can't be told on the radio, or repeated here. It has something to do with what a turned on monkey might try to do to/with a football.
Rest assured, it has absolutely nothing to do with racism.
To answer your question, yes you are being over-sensitive.
Adams mom apparently cant handle anything negative being said about her son. Over reaction just a little.
There is no racism anywhere in the comment "Monkey with a football"
Stop looking to pull the race card you ignorant fools. It just makes you look racist.
Cunningham should have said Dunn plays like he is drunk, instead of saying that he was drunk. Two different things and would have kept himself from needing to apologize.
I think we would all agree Dunn plays the outfield like he's on a sit-n-spin while drinking a quarter barrel.
am I hyper-sensitive when it comes to Cunning-ham's racist, sexist,
I'm-better-than-you-all, comments?
YES ! Grow up and take care of your own business, what someone says
about you or anyone else is just words and nothing more, quit looking for excuses and reasons to blame others for your
shortcomings
The monkey and the football thing is a well-known baseball expression. Cunningham used a cleaned-up version it.
Pay me that many millions to miss 3rd base and boot some balls and you can say whatever you want to about me.
I love everyone attacking Dunn because he doesn't like his mom having to hear bullcrap being spewed about him by hotair morons on radio shows. The best part is that if he hadn't been hustling so fast he wouldn't have missed the base. Then again if he hadn't been hustling(which he would have been criticized for doing) he would've stopped at third.
I also love the whole "I've been called worse and I don't make that much money" Yea you were called drunk at work on the radio?
Some of you people are just flatout stupid(Sorry John, I know no personal attacks). Yea Dunn's a crybaby for being angry his mom was brought to tears.
Why no accountability on radio?
Radio "shock jocks" can say whatever they want, within reason, and get off scot-free.
John Fay, or any other print journalist for that matter, could never, and would never write "Dunn was playing like he was drunk" or even suggest such a thing without credible sources to back it up as fact.
I guess there are different standards of professionalism for different mediums.
I will give credit to Cunningham for showing up at the ballpark and speaking with Dunn like a man.
Few of the other radio loudmouths in this town would do that.
This is really hurting the fan quality index. You Ham & Eggers need to shut up. And wear collared shirts, dammit.
Cunningham is a lawyer and knows full well insinuating that Dunn was drunk is legally actionable. He'd better apologize.
Unless, of course, Cunningham was drunk on that day in law school.
hmmm...it's okay to insult, slander,libel as long as it's funny? you think cunningham apologized because he wanted to? or told to--remember andy furman?
cunningham is a cry baby, adam dunn is not the best player out there but is never hurt and shows up to play everyday. all u critics try to do what he does and see how it is. things should never be said that arnt true drink another one cunningham
Cunningham said what he said because he knew it would get ratings, and the further he went, the more likely it became a story outside of his listeners.
Dunn was upset someone said he played while drunk. He feels that enough people believe Willie that people who liked Adam Dunn would believe it, possibly friends, or maybe his Mom's friend who had called her.
Willie apologized because it kept the story in the news.
I find it funny that people defending Willie on this are pointing out the truth that he says outrageuos things to be funny and stir up news. Yet I'm sure some of these people don't see that he is doing that with some of his outrageous political views as well.
Wow, all this vitriol toward a mother and son that obviously love and support one another. Why is showing human emotions a bad thing, no matter how much money one is paid?
Dunn"s and his moms reaction are irrelevant side issues. The real issue is the "drunk" accusation. Someone with a decent amount of intelligence may know Cunningham was kidding, but unfortunately most of their listeners have such a low level of intelligence that they take him seriously.
Dunn"s and his moms reaction are irrelevant side issues. The real issue is the "drunk" accusation. Someone with a decent amount of intelligence may know Cunningham was kidding, but unfortunately most of their listeners have such a low level of intelligence that they take him seriously.
I never realized there were so many people named Anonymous. They all sound alike.
Dunn shouldn't be with the Reds - most agree with that. He's been roundly criticized in the media and taken it like a man. What he won't take is some skinny little blowhard spouting off time and again. He should have taken a bat to Cunningham.
My Gawd, I've never seen so much ado about nothing. Cunningham's job is to stir the pot and get ratings. Libel? Slander? Come on get serious. I didn't know there were so many blogging lawyers out there. Relax Adam, your mom will be fine. If you want to pay me $10 million per year, I'd be happy to let Bill Cunningham call me names over the radio every day and twice on Sunday.
At least he didn't make his comments while speaking Spanish
If someone said something mean about one of my sons, I would cry too. No matter how old they are or how much money they make they are still your child. We should have more mothers in this country like Adam Dunn's mother. God Belss her.
Bill Cunninghams's comments about Adam Dunn being drunk simply reflect the fact that Bill knows who his audience is. Those who love Bill just seem to delight in putting people down PERSONALLY no matter what the issue might be. Bill's fans delight in this in order to make themselves feel more important than their fellow man. Yes, Dunn makes $10M, but most others ridiculed on his program do not.
Dunn is a lousy outfielder. To criticize him for that is both appropriate and deserved. Personal and untrue criticism is not. This is not satire.
Bill Cunningham needs to go the way of Don Imus! There should be zero tolerance of such defamatory talk.
Bill Cunningham is a Predjudice Drunk. Anyone who listen too him is stupid and has no self esteem. I will say this Bill's mom probably won't cry after reading this because she reallized her son was an idiot a long time ago!
Why do people take everything Cunningham says at 100% face value? The key to enjoying his show is to take it as 70% entertainment and 30% serious commentary. In other words Cunningham is generally over-the-top and he should be viewed as such. Don't take Willie so seriously. You'll find him much easier to enjoy that way.
I immediately wrote Cunningham (I am an attorney) an e-mail, once I heard his live utterances (in full) that day, in pertinent part:
"[Your criticism of Dunn and your saying, even in jest, that Junior and Dunn might have purposefully loafed--for betting purposes! WHOA! Easy Willie! I don't want to see you tossed from the radio]."
So maybe I was one of many voices of reason leading to his deciding to apologize? I'm glad he did, it was the right thing to do.
In this hypersensitive whiney politically correct era, Dunn and Griffey both had (and still have) a case for suing Cunningham for slander for both the betting and drinking aspects of his commentary that afternoon.
The case might be weak, as defamation cases go, and as shock jocks go, Cunningham is very tame (any of you who are actually shocked at Willie, well...I hope the rock you're living under is comfy), but still...Imus got sued and lost his job for saying a far tamer thing than Cunningham's remarks were.
An accusation that your hair is curly is only offensive to a racist African American. An accusation that you're playing pro sports drunk or booting plays on purpose for gambling reasons is, at very least, borderline serious.
And the tone of Willie's voice was such that a jury could decide he was not engaged in parody or comedy when he said those things. His phrasing was also troubling to me, and I'm a fan of his.
Obviously, it's not really all about whether you can win (defend) a defamation action but how much it might cost you to do so!
There is a lot of people just choosing to deny that they know it was a joke because they have some vendetta against Willie.
If I had millions of dollars so I could make sure my mom could be secure and comfortable in retirement and my children .... you could facetiously claim/redicule me that I must have been drunk for my sloppy play all you want.
mom should grow up and realize how lucky she has it and dunn should get a thick skin o give up the money and experience the "fairness" the average hard working, valiant entrepreneur, person working their way through school, etc. experiences.
Well said Joey Beard Face (5:44)
Cunningham's job is to keep peoples' radios dialed to WLW. You guys think this worked?
It's really not that big a deal unless your name is Adam Dunn. And even then, shrug it off dude. When you get paid millions of dollars to play a game don't be surprised when a guy pokes some fun at you on the radio after you miss third base on the trot to home and cost your team a couple of runs.
Just a note to Anonymous 5:48... "Shut Up"
Monkey with a football.....can you say Howard Cosell....'that little monkey" referring to a Redskins wide receiver back in the day.
Context my friends!!!
I always wondered how a) someone like Cunningham is even on the radio and b) the fact that the people of Cincinnati actually like him and think he's entertaining. The man has no talent except knowing how to scream into a microphone much like everyone else on the radio in this city.
But then I read comments like these and it all becomes very clear.
Cincinnati has to be one of the least intelligent major cities in the USA.
Just when you thot interest was fading on the Reds, leave it Willie to generate a ground-swell of emotion. Only Cunningham can take a team dead in the water and put them back on the front page. I guess crap sells. Please!
For Dunn's money both my mom and I will get drunk and play left field.
Same results for half-price!!!
Didn't Adam Dunn's family complain about the Brennamans? Say they didn't like them? Whaaaa boo hoo. Perhaps Dunn's family should apologize to the Brennamans for calling Dunn's pathetic play as it is.
I like how now making large amounts of money for doing something most normal people can't is grounds to be mocked on the radio by idiots.
Jeff Lehner, Dunn wasn't doing a 'trot home' He was busting ass down the basepaths trying to get an extra run in. He hustled to try and score that second run and he messed up. So naturally he must've been drunk. Cunningham is an idiot and I couldn't care less if what he says is usually in jest. He's not funny. Maybe that's funny to guys who sit in their basements with tin foil hats on whining about Mexicans invading and polical correctness.
John Fay, or any other print journalist for that matter, could never, and would never write "Dunn was playing like he was drunk" or even suggest such a thing without credible sources to back it up as fact.
True enough. But a Los Angeles columnist once wrote that an NBA player not known for husting "actually dove for a loose ball last night. Must have thought in was shaped like a bone and squeaked."
Not the same as saying he was drunk, of course, but I like to share it when the opportunity permits.
Oher than that, this all has at least been quite entertaining and has helped take my mind off the god-awful road trip and first two games against the Mets. (Guess there's no where to send Coffey down to the rest of the year).
Easy Phill...
I agree with you. Cunningham was out of line. But isn't a person's outrage better reserved for things bigger than some guy on the radio saying the Reds left fielder plays like he's drunk sometimes?
Just seems a little overblown to me...
Willie made a mistake but Adam Dunn is once again trying to ignore the fact that he is lazy and is baseball stupid. Heck even Mets announcers were cracking on him this weekend for looking lost on the basepath. I cant wait for Dunn to cry all day long the day he leaves Cincy.
I think this is all about Mr. Griffey telling Dunn what to do. They both underachieve, don't run, and have poor defense. Hopefully for the sake of the reds they are both gone soon. Offense or not they just need to leave. What a waste of talent.
Making a lot of money doesn't make up for someone slandering you on the airways. And if Adam's mother had not been upset by this remark, one would have to wonder why not. We can say consider the source regarding Cunningham but that doesn't take away the feelings that Adam must have or his mother. Cunningham is a disgrace to his profession but knowing that doesn't make up for it - and those who think Dunn should grow up should follow their own advice
What is all the fuss about? We play ball on Friday nites and if you don't blow at least a .15 we won't let you on the field. You know what else? It doesn't bother our moms a bit. Go ahead Adam, have a pull, its hot as hell out there in the outfield.
I cant wait for Dunn to cry all day long the day he leaves Cincy.
He will probably be happy to leave one of the worst teams in baseball.
He seems pretty happy to be on this bad team with his unwillingness to ever improve even the basic of skills.
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