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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Wednesday, January 16, 2008

Sarasota v. Goodyear

Sarasota is making a pretty strong push to keep the Res as you can see in this Sarasota Herald-Tribune article.

But obviously it's not a done deal. We'll know by Tuesday. If the either the city or the county commission rejects the new proposal, the Reds will surely move on.

What happens in Goodyear, of course, affects all this. I'm not sure how you work out a plan to share the facilities with the Indians. I guess they'd play a lot of day-night doubleheaders.

I'll get an update from John Allen after the tour.


at 12:29 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

What happened to the Dodgertown site at Vero Beach? I always thought that place was by far the best facility in Florida.

at 12:49 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi John,

Love your blog and Reds coverage, but it's obvious you haven't spent much time researching the Cactus League. Your bias toward FL is readily apparent.

Shared facilites are the way to go. It has absolutely no impact on how many games they play or day/night double headers. The facilities will be awesome and the views of the mountains from the stands will be spectacular. I'm from Glendale and now live in Cincy--I promise you will not be disappointed if the Reds make the move.

at 1:35 PM Anonymous DT-Sampler said...

I got to agree, mocking shared facilities shows your bias. It only means there will be a game play there every single day in March. Maximizing the facilities. One team plays at home, the other goes on a "road". Which will probably entail a mere half hour drive.

Cost wise I would thing Goodyear will be better deal. The Reds sound like they will spend a lot of their own money to maintain Sarasota. They could buy a starting pitcher for that kind of money.

at 1:38 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe the Orioles have signed on to play at Dodgertown

at 2:06 PM Blogger John Fay said...

It doesn't make a great deal of difference to me whether the Reds train in Arizona or Florida. I like Sarasota a lot. But I've heard Arizona is great, and I like the idea of road games being a half hour away.

My point has been Sarasota makes sense for the Reds for the following reasons: 1. It's a lot closer to Cincinnati, so it easily reached by car; 2. More transplanted Cincinnatians live there than in Arizona; 3. They have a Florida State League team and GCL team playing out of the facility.

at 6:08 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

John a question, how much is going to cost the team to move to Goodyear?

at 6:13 PM Blogger John Fay said...

I think they'd save money in the long-run. They're going to have to put up $9 million for the Sarasota project.

at 6:20 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

The long run, do you mean with the added expense of travel,equipment movement etc.. They would save money by spending 9 million now and staying in Sarasota.

at 10:41 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look....for all you Arizona naysayers out there. Goodyear would be great!
I am a loyal Phoenix Reds fan from Cincinnati.There are allot more of us than you would believe out here. Just go to a Diamondbacks game in Phoenix when they play the Reds. The stands are full of us. A change of scenery might just do the team some good. Doesn't Daugherty always clamor for a new way of doing things with regards to the Reds and Bengals? This would be a good start. Come on every one. Since I can remember my beloved city has stubbornly clung to the past. Try somewhere different , think beyond the borders of Indiana. They can always go back to Florida if it doesn't work out. Most likely, as you will all see if you visit, Arizona is awesome, and the team would likely stay forever as alll of us Cincy expats have!

at 10:46 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read the article on the other site and it sounds like if Sarasota would just try and do anything the Reds would jump all over it.

at 3:59 AM Anonymous pbnmsu17 said...

With the LA Dodgers coming to Glendale. Goodyear is a small community with the shadow of 4 million plus people in the valley. An area that supports the Cactus league. The Arizona Fall league, Phoenix Suns, Arizona Cardinals, Phoenix Coyotes, Arizona Sting, Arizona Diamondbacks plus ASU. The Reds will add a bigger fan base in AZ, than they will lose in Fl. An airport blocks away from the new Stadium,lots of new business in the West Valley. EVEN the Milwaukee Brewers are supported well in the Valley. Believe me, the Reds will feel the love from the city of Goodyear.

at 10:18 AM Blogger Johnny Redlegs said...

This move is not about how many fans we will lose in Florida or gain in Arizona. This about the fans that are in Cincinnati where the club is from. People in Ohio are not going to be able to afford to take whole families to Arizona each year. The whole point is to keep Spring Training as accessible to the loyal fans in Cincinnati. The Reds are not looking to build a fan base in other states or at least the should not be. If the Reds want to keep with "The Power of Tradition" then this is an easy decision. Stay in Florida where it is possible for the everyday Reds fan could to make the trip. NO TO ARIZONA.

at 4:13 PM Anonymous The young right hander said...

Does moving spring training to Goodyear mean they will be moving High A Sarasota there too?

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