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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Tuesday, March 18, 2008

Pirates 8, Reds 4

Josh Fogg had a rough start. He allowed six runs -- three earned -- in five hits in three innings.

"He was missing his spots," Dusty Baker said. "And we had a couple of defensive miscues. He needs good defense behind. Also, in his defense, he was pitching on three days' rest."

Fogg is a fifth-starter type. He's going to have days like that.

“If I was going to be good every start, I don’t think I’d be in the situation I’m in right now,” Fogg said. “I’d have a guaranteed job somewhere. Everybody gets beat up every once and a while. It’s part of the game.”

Joey Votto hit a three-run homer in the fourth for the Reds. I know he's struggled this spring, but he has a sweet swing. The ball jumps off his bat.

Bill Bray has pitched into consideration with two more scoreless innings. He's only allowed one hit in three outings and four innings this spring.


at 2:22 PM Blogger Hey Barry Larkin! said...

Ouch. I'd call that rough, alright. Why only 3 earned? Who had the error?

This looks like it will help Belisle's chances. When does he pitch next? Is Fogg seen as a viable option in long relief, like Belisle? I doubt Wayne would like to see either of his $1 million men in AAA to start the season.

at 2:25 PM Blogger Branden said...

so what happens if fogg,ev and belise stuggle? does affeldt get another chance? i would really like to see a lefty in the rotation, and i think he should get one more shot.

at 2:47 PM Blogger redsfan8557 said...

I heard Marty today say he things Bruce is going back the the minors. I guess I missed that one. Has anyone heard anything about that. I know he has not played in a couple of days

at 3:04 PM Blogger Grizzlyfox said...

You guys know Fogg is a career #5 right? You gotta expect the guy to get shellacked from time to time. Its the starts where he doesn't get ripped that counts, that's how he's been able to be a .500 pitcher.

at 3:09 PM Blogger gannfan said...

With Patterson, Freel and Hopper available doesn't it make sense to send Jay Bruce back to AAA?

Doesn't the ML service clock start ticking if Jay Bruce starts the season on the ML team?

All pitchers have rough outings, and Fogg is a back of the rotation starter. Hopefully he can pitch well enough over the course of the season to allow Bailey and Belisle to work out their issues in AAA.

at 3:10 PM Blogger Hey Barry Larkin! said...

I see that it was Votto that had the fielding error. That hurts his case, I'm sure. I also see that he had a 3-run bomb. That helps his case, I'm sure.

at 3:12 PM Blogger Brian said...

Votto commitedthe error.

at 3:12 PM Blogger Hey Barry Larkin! said...

By the way, Redsfan, I've heard lots of rumors and grumbling by sports analysts (and fans) seeming to think that Bruce will start in AAA. I'm inclined to agree, as he hasn't really proved that he definitely belongs in the majors this spring. His meteoric rise through the minors last year may mean that a little more development down south could do him some good. I wouldn't be too upset if he started in Louisville. After all, we have 4 centerfielders right now. Cuts will be coming in the next day or two, may found out then.

at 3:16 PM Blogger Brandon said...

Well since Patterson is batting something like .473 I'm going to guess he is our CF and leadoff. Bruce and Bailey are going to AAA most likely Hatteberg will most likely start. Fogg most likely will be the last guy in the rotation which isn't bad if your number 5 guy wins 10 games. Our bull pen is shaping up to be Corder, Weathers, Stanton, Affeldt, Bray, Burton, Coffey. Kep will most likely start at SS and I have no idea what they will do with Belisle.

at 3:25 PM Blogger KY side of Cincy said...

I don't pretend to be the all-knowing sage that many on here have proclaimed themselves to be, but I'm of the belief that Bruce is going to "AAA" until RF is open. He truly isn't a CF'er, and with Patterson hitting about .470 this spring and still regarded with loads of "potential" talent, I'd say he gets 125 starts this year in CF.

Since Griffey is 100% not here next year ($16.5 million option? Are you serious?), I'd say Bruce is in "AAA" all year unless (wink wink) Griffey gets hurt.

Have the Reds had an even an "average" catcher since Jerko Cinco was behind the dish? Wow...that is a serious drought. Please don't give me Joe Oliver. Seriously.

The Votto / Hatte situation is going to be interesting.

Homer better get himself right in L'ville quick...he has gone from a can't miss stud to shooting himself in the foot when he had a spot all but guaranteed and then puked on himself. Not to mention, he needs a serious attitude adjustment. Typically, Mr. Big Shot doesn't play well in this market.

at 3:27 PM Blogger RyanRico said...

Let's just hope Dusty was paying attention when Votto popped that one.

I've heard a lot of veteran baseball people say in articles 'the very worst time to evaluate is in Spring Training', due to the varying pitcher quality and true game situations. That said,though Votto has struggled statistically, hopefully Dusty is bright enough to see what the kid can bring.

'Put him in, coach'

at 3:31 PM Blogger redsfan8557 said...

Then who do you guys believe will start in CF? Hopper? Freel,Patterson? I would love to see Bruce to start the season with the big boys. I also believe Bailey needs to grow up and start to listen. He is still young, and everyone thinks hes a stud but when he pitches every spring he falls on his face

at 3:44 PM Blogger hebs said...

Listening to ESPN today

Peter Gammons says he thinks Bruce will be the ROY in the NL, and that the Reds will be "dangerous," and contend with the Brew Crew and Chubs. He cited the power, Cordero as closer and Volques pitching well. Then he stated that everyone is buzzing about Cueto. Good thing Johnny doesn't understand English, or it might all go to his head!

at 4:01 PM Blogger ST fan said...

John. The last 5 games at ED Smith have been very near sellouts. BIG crowds. The toilets worked, the concession stands served the fans needs, and the seats were comfortable. Why didn't you report THIS? It appears you are pro-Arizona and biasing your reports? You are too good to do that.

at 4:01 PM Blogger Hey Barry Larkin! said...

ESPN's good call/bad call segment has a question asking whether the Reds are the NL sleeper this year. I say good call. Go vote:


at 4:04 PM Blogger Brian said...

What people (myself included) forget is that Jay Bruce was only called up to AAA because of an injury. They were going to send him back to AA after the guy he replaced (I can't remember who it was) got healthy. Granted, he was impressive enough to stay up in AAA, but going back to the 'Ville can't hurt him. He'll make it up to the big club some time this season. Plus, the Reds want either Volquez or Cueto to be Rookie of the Year this year :)

at 4:12 PM Blogger KY side of Cincy said...

I think Patterson is the CF against righties and either Freel or Hopper starts against lefties.

Nearly sure of it, to be honest.

at 4:22 PM Blogger Brj said...

Don't know if they announced on the game broadcast but former Reds pitcher Bob Purkey has passed away.
He was 78.

at 5:27 PM Blogger NVreds said...

Bruce in AAA is likely it seems, he's not a leadoff hitter, and would probably struggle with it. maybe patterson can build on this spring, but there is nothing to guarantee that of course.

bruce in AAA? I'm over it, AAA won't hurt him in anyway, maybe he could work on cutting the SO, in the last game he took a pitch that was close, but you have to swing with 2 strikes if its close every time in the majors.
Also if we wait until midseason we get rid of the super2 status so we can add an extra year before he FA eligible. if we're patient we get an extra yr at a discount of a possible future star. if I'm bob i do it. maybe the reds trade griffey at the deadline.

at 6:06 PM Blogger Red Faced said...

I'm with NVReds on this one. I also think that Jr will be moved just before the trade deadline.

at 7:03 PM Blogger David Hartman said...

Special to ST fan

SARASOTA, Fla. -- All the toilets worked as expected today at the soon-to-be-vacated Ed Smith Stadium as a sellout crowd watched the Reds slip to .500 in exhibition play with an 8-4 loss to the Pirates.

Additionally, all the fans who wanted concessions were able to buy them, with one slight exception.

"We did run out of guacamole for the nachos," said Joe Grubchucker, director of food services for the stadium. "But hey, it's Florida. It's not like we can just go out back and pick a couple cacti and whip up some more like they do in Arizona."

It was the fifth-straight day the toilets worked without a backup.

"We're extremely proud of our reputation for having our toilets work properly a good portion of the time," said Ima Johnsnake, director of maintenance for the outdated facility. "When you consider that Florida has seen more crap this spring than at any time since the 2000 general election -- that's a lot of waste to move."

Johnsnake said janitors plunged into the toilet troubles in earnest last week after plumbing clogged sewer lines like walks clog basepaths. Still, she was surprised that so many fans were flustered while flushing was in flux.

"Have they watched their team at all over the last 15 years? They should be used to it by now," Johnsnake quipped.

The 20-year veteran janitor vowed things would be better next year.

"Next year is going to be a very Goodyear for the Reds, if not the people of Sarasota," Johnsnake predicts.

Though Johnsnake anticipates being out of work next spring, she said she and the other janitors are committed to sending the Reds off with a splash. Already, many players have taken note of the free-flushing thrones.

"They flow so freely now that the veterans can give the young guys swirlies after the game. It's a bonding thing," Johnsnake said.

at 8:24 PM Blogger Hugh D. Pohl said...

Good one Hartman!

at 8:43 PM Blogger reaganspad said...

You know, I think Green gets the Keppinger award for 2008:

Nice Spring:
9 Walks, 6 K's
7 Runs 8 RBI
OBP .513
SLG .786
AVE .357

at 9:16 PM Blogger KevinFtMyers said...

Best post Ive seen in a VERY long time.

I want the Reds in FLA, and was also disappointed when John mentioned in his Enquirer piece that NONE of the toilets worked.

But when I saw STFAN's post I thaught "why would that deserve mentioning?" The toilets are SUPPOSED TO WORK.

That would be like reporting that Dusty handed in the lineup.

at 12:11 AM Blogger SparkysGhost said...

So, any feeling for whether Dusty Baker is one of those developmentally retarded/narcissistic managers who assume that if they didn't personally witness something occur that it didn't actually happen?

Like babies that haven't achieved what cognitive psychologists term "object permanence", the rule for these old school skippers is "out of sight, out of mind". So if a guy hit .300 the year before in a full season of AAA, but it wasn't on his watch, it might as well have not happened. But the .158 that Joey Votto has hit in 30 or 40 insignificant at bats this spring, that's real because Dusty was there in all of His Walk Hater's Almighty Glory.

Any sense for whether he is this stupid kind of manager (and there are lots of them, to be sure) who thinks the player's career only started when he came to town? I'd love to know. Has anyone asked him? Maybe it's hard to do without being outright insulting: "Tell us Dusty, are you stupid in these other ways, or is your stupidity limited to not liking it when your batters get on base?"

at 3:52 AM Blogger NVreds said...

Very nice Hartman, thanks for the laugh

lets say I own a team, and someone offers me a brand new state-of-the-art facility and a $10mil free agent or fixed up average facility for $10mil. well its hard not to choose the obvious. sorry FL.

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