Reds v. Cardinals
Ryan Freel CF
Jeff Keppinger SS
Ken Griffey Jr. RF
Brandon Phillips 2B
Adam Dunn LF
Edwin Encarnacion 3B
Joey Votto 1B
David Ross C
Aaron Harang P
v. RH Braden Looper
Former Red Jason LaRue is catching. He comes in hitting .045.
posted by John Fay at 12:34 PM
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Cincy fans hate to much said...
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John said...
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WallieC said...
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Post a Comment*The over / under on rbi's for Dunn and Ross combined is 1, Id take the under.
How long is our best hitter going to hit 7th?
Go get em Freely!
I'd like to see Harang dominate and win this one hiself.
Here's to hoping that this is the start of us seeing less and less of Patterson up in that top spot.
is branden looper related to adam harnag?
very happy to see fifi larue, been such a long time. wonder what kind of reception he'll get when they come to cincy
Wow, Farney starts against a righty over CP?!? Why isn't he trying to steal 3B with LaPew behind the plate? Oh, well...if he had've stolen third he woulda had a shot at scoring on BP's fly.
After reading some of the comments from yesterday, I had to address them.
When will people start to understand that trading in baseball, or any sport for that matter, is not about trying to rip off another team. It is about trading something that team wants for something you want, and quite often that means trading talent for talent.
Dunn and Griffey were not traded in the Volquez deal because Texas DID NOT WANT THEM. So it is hard to trade players when other teams don't want them(and please don't change the debate to the fact that those two play for the Reds, that is another discussion for another time).
I think to many people grew up Reds fans with Bowden as the GM, and they think that this is how all GMs behave. Just because it always seemed that Bowden was looking to rip people off in trades, doesn't mean that is how everyone else operates.
Remember when you trade nothing for something that is called a fire sale, and really who is doing that anymore. The big trades are taking longer to happen because more and more teams want at least one GOOD prospect before they trade their best players. So for every trade that "appears" to be one sided, there are two or three that are for equal value.
So it sucks that Texas wanted Hamilton, but it looks like we got a pretty decent return on the trade. If some Reds fans are obsessed with constant updates on Hamilton, then lets constantly put Volquez's stats next to it. Sure Hamilton is tearing the cover off the ball for Texas RIGHT NOW, but in the same vein Volquez is lights out as a pitcher RIGHT NOW.
For all reality we need to wait until AFTER the season before we can truthfully evaluate this trade. Sure Hamilton may continue to hit, and Volquez may win 20 games and it is all win win, but just as likely is that Hamilton wears down, like last year, misses a considerable amount of games as the season progresses, and Volquez gets figured out during his second and third times around the league. Plus any combination of those senarios could happen.
It really serves no purpose for there to be daily Hamilton updates, with the assumption that at some point Volquez will suck. Maybe we need daily Volquez updates with the assumption Hamilton will get hurt.
Personally I am like John, I actually like that BOTH teams got something out of this trade.
Not what I had in mind from Harang. As the Reds #1, he needs to do a bit more than have "good" outings.
I agree completely with CFHTM. Do people think Volquez for Hamilton was a bad trade or do they just wish Hamilton was still on the team. The way I look at it, the Reds would have a chance to win 2 of every 5 games without Volquez and 3 of every 5 with . . . and I'm still hoping for Arroyo to bring it to 4 of 5.
What I'd be interested to see is what teams have offered in response to trade feelers for Dunn and Griffey. There is no sane MLB GM who would offer and Volquez. My guess is the best Griffey would bring is a non-Top 3 AA prospect. Becuase Dunn is a FA, probably the same.
Regarding Dunn and Griffey having little or no trade value. Fine. Let 'em walk at the end of the year and reap the draft picks when they sign somewhere else for way too much money. Simple.
What the Reds need is a manager comparable to Sparky Anderson, who knows how to use the hook on a pitcher. How many times have they been so far in the hole that they could never dig their way out. If the pitcher can't get a team out before they score three runs they don't deserve to be in amajor league game. Another thing that would help is to get rid of the dead wood. We don't need Patterson, we've got Freel, get rid of the manager's pet. Also we need to send Dunn down to Louisville where he can work on his hitting and give Hairdton a chance to resume his hot hitting.
WallieC
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