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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Friday, April 11, 2008

Ross to Louisville

From the Reds:

C David Ross' (low back spasms) rehabilitation assignment was transferred from FSL Sarasota to Class AAA Louisville. . .he is expected to join the Bats in time for tonight's home opener vs Pawtucket. . .in 4 rehab apps for the FSL Reds, Ross went 2-for-11 with 1 rbi.

It's going to be interesting when Ross is ready to come back. I don't think Paul Bako is going anywhere, given the way he's worked with Johnny Cueto and Edinson Volquez. Aaron Harang also gave him a lot of credit yesterday.

They could go with three catchers -- making Javy Valentin primarily a pinch-hitter. But they need to move someone else to open a spot to do that.


at 2:10 PM Blogger KFeller said...

I'm very interested to see what they do. I think it's crazy to carry three catchers, and I don't think that Javy would be happy just being used as a pinch hitter.

Do any of these guys have any trade value whatsoever?

at 2:12 PM Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

Glad to see that they listened to me for a change (LOL) and sent Ross to Louisville where he should stay until Bako returns to form.

at 2:22 PM Blogger ArGee said...

At his age does Ross have options? I doubt it and he can't "stay" there.

at 2:23 PM Blogger ArGee said...

>>Glad to see that they listened to me for a change (LOL) and sent Ross to Louisville where he should stay until Bako returns to form.<<

At his age does Ross have options? I doubt it.

at 2:34 PM Blogger BATSFAN said...

IM going to the Bats game tonight, ill give u all a update on my opinion on how he looks

at 2:34 PM Blogger Crouton17 said...

What are they going to do when Ross is ready is one question. But what are they going to do when both Ross and Gonzalez are ready. Not too mention Bruce. Good problem to have, however.

at 2:42 PM Blogger KevinFtMyers said...


(Sarcasm not directed at you John, just the info. You do a great job bringing it to us.)

at 2:45 PM Blogger mrtonyb40 said...

just a hunch, he [ross] should look to purchase house in louisville.

at 2:47 PM Blogger KevinFtMyers said...

I think Javy has the most trade value, hes fairly young, is more than adequate as a backup catcher, and a good bat off the bench. Wait.. maybe we should keep him. Sorry Dave!

Anyway, NONE of these guys are a long term solution, If Bako keeps it up hell do for this year, but Kriv needs to adress this, like yesterday!

at 3:04 PM Blogger KevinFtMyers said...

I like our chances for a sweep of PIT this weekend. I think the Reds will hit all 3 games.

The deciding factor will Bronson Arroyo. Im hoping hell break through in this game and pitch a gem. Poor guy keeps drawing the best pitcher on the other staff.
(Ian Snell 1-0 3.35era)

Voltron and Kueto face guys with eras at 9 and 10 respectively.
Unless one of our guys melts down, and the oposing pitcher performs over their head, I think they will get w's.

Anyway, a sweep would be nice, especially considering MIL will almost certainly not sweep the Mets in NY.

at 3:33 PM Blogger jc said...

this is going to be one of thwo tough calls baker will have to make. i would really like to see him carry two catchers if he thinks he can get away with it. they say hatteberg can catch in a pinch. you have eithger hatteberg or votto as a left handed pinch hitter. how many nights do you need two left handed hitting first basemen. my hope that votto plays everyday does not seem to be happening so use him another way.
i knbow valentin can hit... but he is immobile... everytime i see him i think of "bibb of michelin man"
the other deal is belisle. i'd like to see him carry another pitcher. in a perfect world baker keeps on top of pitch counts and either belisle or fogg can be a long guy. this entails a cut. and no one has pitched himself out of a job. coffey gave up a meaningless homer or else he is under 3.
you figure gonzalez makes castro disappear. keppinger can also play the outfield... so that makes either hopper or freel a luxury. i say hopper cause freel can do so much.

at 3:40 PM Blogger Boozing in Lucasville said...

I still think that Javy will go on the DL when Ross is ready to buy some time. They should and will DFA Castro when Gonzo is ready. Javy on the 15 day gives them time to move Freel or Hatte.

at 3:47 PM Blogger mandatalksalot said...

Valentin is an ok pinch hitter (not bad but not as good as his reputation) and a fairly subpar catcher. Bako (great defense) is more what you look for in a backup catcher. I say go with Ross/Bako this year....pick up a free agent next year and keep Ross OR Bako for the backup. Meanwhile, adios Valentin

at 3:55 PM Blogger Mark T said...

David Ross at 2/11 (182 BA) is in mid-season form. Bring him back!

at 4:10 PM Blogger Red Faced said...

I've been wondering about how Ross and AGon coming back was going to effect the roster also. In my opinion Castro is a guy who is just flat out not needed. We have other mor qualified guys who do the same and can do it better. Time to let him loose. After that I don't know.

Does Hopper get sent down? He hasn't really played much.

I'm of the feeling that 3 catchers are not needed either but of course I was in that same boat last year. If the best arguement for keeping 3 catchers is that Javy is too valuable a pinch hitter and using him forces you to lose your only backup catcher option on the bench then don't you have to really consider his value somewhat of a liability? I mean really, if we only have 2 catchers on the staff and we want to pinch hit Javy in the 6th for the pitcher's spot because he's sooo good but it would force us to play the rest of the game without a backup catcher then how valuable is he really? Perhaps instead of holding a roster spot for him he should be traded. I like Javy but man, we keep getting caught (no pun intended) in this pinch hit/3 catcher trap.

at 4:24 PM Blogger Eric said...

"I think Javy has the most trade value, hes fairly young, is more than adequate as a backup catcher"

Um, Javy is 32? He is also way below average defensively. He has been decent as a pinch hitter, but we have whoever isn't playing first every night as a left handed bat on the bench. Keep Bako and Ross. They are both good defensively and call a good game. I think the offense will be ok without Javy. Trade him for a prospect.

at 4:40 PM OpenID miami87 said...

Let me put this as directly and succintly as possible: there is no one on the current roster I want to remove to add David Ross. If he's got options, leave him in L'ville. If not, see if he'll pass through waivers.

at 4:54 PM Blogger Tony said...

I would keep Ross on a rehab assignment for as long as possible. I’m not sure what the Reds see in this guy. He has a well below average bat and his defense is overrated. He calls a decent game and throws decent but he moves poorly behind the plate. He swings and misses more than any player I’ve ever seen, hits for a very poor average and his outs (which are far too plentiful) are usually unproductive outs. Somebody please tell me what value he has?

at 5:39 PM Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

There is no need for both Ross and Bako. Either can handle the pitching staff equally well. Ross throws better and neither can hit their weight. Ross can hit a few homers if the pitcher hits his bat with the ball he but swings and misses more than anyone that I have ever seen. Neither one of these guys should be the starting catcher on a contending team.

I don't expect to see Gonzalez for quite a while yet and quite frankly, who cares? I guess if he came back and replaced Castro, it would be a plus.

at 6:15 PM Blogger reaganspad said...

Ross and Bako are our best 2 catchers. With an ERA of 3.2, I could care if they hit 150.

Fortunately, they are both better than that. Who is a better pinch hitter, Javy or Hatte?

at 9:26 PM Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

5:15 PM Blogger reaganspad said...

"Ross and Bako are our best 2 catchers".

Pretty sad state of affairs, isn' it.

at 9:34 PM Blogger Dave said...

Sorry, but I don't even understand this discussion.
Right now, Bako is the only choice (unless my eyes & ears are deceiving me).

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