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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Tuesday, June 12, 2007

Pizza with the players, No. 1 in ratings

From the Reds:

SHOPPING WITH A JOCK: From noon to 1:00 p.m. tomorrow at Dick's Sporting Goods at Deerfield Towne Center in Mason, 8 Reds players will host a shopping spree for young fans from the Reds Rookie Success League...Dick's is donating $100 in equipment to each kid, and the Reds players will match that total...scheduled to participate in the pizza lunch and shopping spree are Matt Belisle, Eric Milton, Aaron Harang, Scott Hatteberg, Kyle Lohse, Jon Coutlangus, Jeff Conine and Ryan Freel.

TV RATINGS: It was a big weekend for the Reds – taking two of three from the Cleveland Indians in the “Battle of Ohio,” and posting the #1 spot in prime time television both Friday and Saturday nights.

Earning an 8.2 household rating on Friday, June 8, the Reds on FSN Ohio topped the following programs: Numb3rs (6.8), Ghost Whisperer (6.0), 20/20 (4.9), and Close to Home (4.7).

And with a 6.8 rating on Saturday, June 9, FSN Ohio bested: the CBS Saturday Movie (4.7), 48 Hours (4.0), the ABC Saturday Movie (2.9), and Law & Order: SVU (2.8).

A 1.0 rating equates to approximately 9,000 homes in the Cincinnati market.


at 11:50 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

This should show ownership that people still care and it is time to invest some money into this franchise. Imagine ratings if this team ever makes the playoffs or even had big games down the stretch of September!

at 1:01 PM Blogger RickNMd said...

Those are huge ratings for cable. The nationals are getting a 1.9 rating on their cable network and MASN is very happy. But to get an 8.2?

And what a typical know nothing BS complaint about putting money into the franchise. Show us where Castellini hasn't spent.

He approved adding payroll through last summer in order to win the division. They re-signed Harang and Arroyo to extensions. They were not afraid to eat Cormier's contract or a chunk of LaRue's and might have to eat some if/when Dunn is traded.

But I guess some people won't be happy until the Reds spend $130 million like the Cubs so that when they suck they'll have something to complain about.

at 1:54 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

What was our big money splash this year? Jeff Conine? This franchise has made trades in the past but when was the last time the Reds made a major free agent aquisition? I have to go back to Greg Vaughn in '99 which is the last time we have even contended. You get what you pay for as a rule in this business. The Yankees have always spent the most. Therefore they have the most world championships. The Reds are no longer in the championship business...

at 1:57 PM Blogger cincikid said...

I just want to know why Castellini is BS'n us. We should have bought Gil Meche for 55Mil! He has put Royals over the top this year. And Soriano for the butt load that he got!....sarcasm... If I'm not mistaken Dunn has more Homeruns than him. But we are just paying him 10mil?? Come on people, use your head or go support the Yankees!
Please show me where we can find a Harang type of Starter for the extension money we gave him? Hmmm... Sounds like money well spent to me.
Oh yeah, before I go to work some of your trade proposals are silly too. I don't like bashing Krivsky because I believe that he has some strong points. And he has been stellar with contract negotiationa (Harang, Arroyo, Lohse, Freel, Weathers, cough, cough, Coffey). But given his trade history, THE TRADE. I believe that alot of GM's are giving Dunn alot of attention because they feel that they wouldn't have to give up awhole lot for Dunner. Would I like to have Broxton? HECK YEAH!, Kemp? Sure!, Either? FO'Show! Uhh... are we going to acquire those level of players for a prototypical DH that will be a rent a player unless he negotiates? HECK NO, Not even if we were talking baseball cards!!

at 1:57 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

The last time the Reds made the playoffs was 1995 and they had the highest payroll in baseball. Does that show you anything Rick? Or do you call that coincidence?

at 2:22 PM Blogger Mr. Redlegs said...

. . . and the last time a team won the World Series with the highest payroll was . . . ?

But hey, those $9 million-a-year deals for Larkin and Milton turned out just dandy, proving time and again that wild-assed money spent guarantees nothing.

at 2:24 PM Blogger cincikid said...

I call it coincidence. They went to the playoffs because they had clubhouse leadership and was one of the best clutch hitting teams in the NL.
If what your saying is true "ANONYMOUS" the Yanks would be WC every year. Don't get me wrong it would be nice to be able to afford the top free agents every trading deadline. But when you can't get people out of the houses and out from behind the T.V. and into GABP! The only thing that the T.V. rating proves is that people in Cleveland and Cincinnati still care enough about baseball to watch a inner state rival game. Also the drive from Cleveland to Cinci on a hot day isn't as good as a cold beer, couch, big screen, and to cheer on the 1st place Indians. I hate the Indians but it's the truth.

at 2:25 PM Blogger cincikid said...

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at 2:47 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know what kills me, I am Reds fan in Chicago and am able to get the scoop about Reds' news from a national source- SI. Nice going Reds beat reporters! Can anyone provide a decent editorial down there about trade proposals, theories, hopes or rumors? I mean give us something to talk about- do your job! These blogs are weak, give us the dirt.

at 4:28 PM Blogger Pat said...

I don't think the Reds had the highest payroll in 95, did they?

But, I do agree that if you want to make the playoffs you generally need to be in the top 2 payroll wise in your division. You can't buy a WS, but you sure can buy the division (see Yanks)

Soriano is getting hot and will show that he was worth the money. The Cubs, likewise will win this division.

Don't talk about A's and Twins and other also rans. They are just the feeder teams for the big markets. As soon as there stars get to be too expensive, they're gone. traded for prospects that keep the team on the brink of success, but never a championship team.

the ownership has done a great job with a small market team. But, this is the best the Reds will ever be. my heart will always be with the reds and I hope they win the occasional WS every 20 years, but yeah I root for the Yanks too.

at 4:56 PM Anonymous Red Faced said...

No the Reds did not have the highest payroll in 1995 but they did have the 3rd highest behind the Yanks and Orioles. Crazy isn't it. From that point on the Yanks payroll has grown with the increase and discrepency in player salaries while the Reds payroll hasn't changed a whole lot. We actually went down in payroll before finally inching upward again.

I found a great document online with some of this info in it and it was quite eye-opening. The site is The business of baseball data and can be found at http://www.roadsidephotos.com/baseball/data.htm while the file itself is in excel format and can be downloaded at: http://www.roadsidephotos.com/baseball/TEAMSAL.xls This document has team salaries from 1977 to 2004.

Also, there is an awesome document concerning 'Team Payroll and Team Performance in Major League Baseball 1985-2002' that basically shows us how the lack of a salary cap has hurt baseball over the last 15 years. The link for the pdf document is http://economicsbulletin.vanderbilt.edu/2003/volume1/EB-03A10003A.pdf This document helps shed some light on how the big spending clubs in baseball have driven up salaries of the elite yet have negatively effected the lower 25% of player salaries and at the same time keep smaller market teams from being able to compete with them. It's a great read.

If not a team Salary cap then why not a Maximum salary for players that can be based upon the MLB revenue numbers every year and help make the descrepancy in player salaries and team payroll less?

at 12:57 PM Blogger Pat said...

Thanks Red Faced. That's an incredible website. The economics of baseball has changed drastically and I'm afraid small market clubs will never catch up.

Baseball needs an economic overhaul. Either a salary cap or rearranging the leagues so that you have all the small market teams in one league and large markets in another. At least this way the Reds would have a chance at post season.

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