Giants 2, Reds 0

Bronson Arroyo's presence on the mound has a strange effect on the Reds' offense. Saturday night was the 14th time, they've scored two or fewer runs for him.

“This is the first time all year I've put up all zeros and gotten snubbed,” he said. “But it's one of them years, man. It’s hard to get wins.”

Arroyo remained 9-14. He says the big difference between this year and last year – when he went 14-11 -- was two bad starts against Washington. He gave up 13 runs in 3 2/3 innings in those starts.

“I've said for awhile now that other than the two outings against Washington, I had close to same year,” he said. “Last year, I had 23 quality starts. This year, I've got 21.

“The first half killed me. I wasn't able to build up wins when I had those good outings. If you get five, six wins in the first couple months, you can ride it out.”