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Thursday, December 6, 2007

Rule 5: Reds get Valenzuela, lose Guevara

The Reds picked Sergio Valenzuela in the Rule 5 Draft. He's a 23-year-old right-hander from Mexico. The Reds lost Carlos Guevara to the Marlins. Florida took him with the sixth pick, one before the Reds took Valenzuela with. He was then traded to San Diego.

The Rule 5 come downs to scouting, the Reds say. That's only way what happened makes sense. Guevara had very good numbers at Double-A last season; Valenzuela had very bad numbers at Single-A.

We'll see how it plays out.


Valenzuela was 1-3 with a 7.00 ERA last season in Single-A, 3-4 with 6.04 ERA in 2006 in Rookie Ball. Valenzuela, no relation to Fernando, is listed at 6-foot, 175 pounds. The Reds say he's actually 6-3 1/2, 200.

J Harrison, who scouted Valenzuela for the Reds, said Valenzuela throws up to 95, 96 mph.

"He's still got some development left," Harrison said. "We think he can develop into a starter. He's got a slider and a plus change-up."

The Reds plan to work Valenzuela out of the bullpen this season. He's got to remain on the 25-man roster or the Reds have to offer him back to the Braves for $25,000, half of what it cost to pick him.

Guevara was very good at Chattanooga last season -- 2.32 ERA, 16 saves. He's got a change-up/screwball that helped him strike out 87 in 62 innings.

"We had heard that he might get taken," Wayne Krivsky said. "When you get guys taken in the Rule 5, it shows your system is getting better."


9 Comments:

at 10:58 AM Anonymous MONEY MIKE said...

Are his numbers deceiving John? Is he actually worth more than his stats show? Cause these are pretty sorry stats.

 
at 11:17 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess Mike Burns and Joe Mays weren't available?

 
at 11:32 AM Blogger Jeff Gentil said...

This just in...Valenzuela has "pulled a hamstring" and will go on the 180-day D.L. starting April 1.

 
at 12:52 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

this has gotta be some sick joke...from Josh Hamilton to some class A guy w/ a 7.00 era...i have got to think there were better options out there....i m not real sure how the Rule 5 works...but could this same guy have been drafted in the AAA rule 5 draft?

 
at 1:29 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Krivsky admits the system is getting better, and yet he fired nearly everyone responsible for making the system better. Does he see the irony?

 
at 3:21 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

It sure looks and sounds like Guevera was the better prospect. Why didn't the Reds release Cantu a long time ago, and protect Guevera on the 40 man roster.

 
at 12:13 AM Blogger Wacky Dan said...

I've been following Guevara the last couple of years and can't believe he wasn't at least in AAA last year. 87 K's in 62 innings.....impressive. Why didn't he get a shot. I agree he should have been on the 40 man. The Padres "targeted" him. At least we get to see him in a major league uniform this year. Wayne blew it.

 
at 11:09 AM Anonymous Harold Schuler said...

Why wasn't Carlos Guevara promoted to Louisville??

 
at 5:01 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Come on... how can anyone back up what the Reds ahve missed out on and what they did during these meetings.

First they pass on getting two top you players in Willis and Caberrara because they won't give up "prospects" i am not saying give up the whole bank but i would bet even money the reds could have gotten a deal put together fot thsoe two if they wanted.....

the prospects the reds didn't want to give up are or are close to the same age as Willis and cabrerra,

they then turn and release Cantu to pick up some questionable pitcher who couldn't make it in single A???
The marlins want Cantu...and will get him for free now.. and don't forget cantu is young too 25...

They haven't locked Phillips up to a long term contract yet and Phillips is young...26

Reds fans have to remember crown jewels like Willie Green, Paul Housholder, Gary Redus, Kal Daniels, Kurt Stillwell, that were " untouchable"

so be leery about not wanting to trade "prospects" fro proven stars especially when they are as well proven and as big time as willis and Miggy are

 
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