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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Thursday, February 28, 2008

Weathers report

David Weathers is a good teammate and he wants to win, so he wasan't about to complain when the Reds signed Francisco Cordero. But he admits it stung a bit.

“I was a little disappointed when everything happened and the way it did,” Weather said. “You have your best season and you get demoted. As they say, you take on the chin and keep fighting. That’s the way my whole career has been.”

Weathers understands why Cordero was added. Weathers was good last year -- converting 33 of 39 saves -- but the Reds bullpen overall was awful. The Reds finished last in National League in relief pitching with a 5.13 ERA.

“We needed a guy like Francisco,” Weathers said. “We had to have that because it makes our team that much better. But I would have hoped to be in that slot. That’s human nature.”

Weathers has always been afterthought with the Reds. That was the case when he signed his current contract.

In 2006, he was closer until the Reds traded for Eddie Guardado and after Guardado got hurt. Still, the Reds didn’t jump at the chance to bring Weathers back.
They signed Mike Stanton first. Weathers wanted to come back but the Reds weren’t willing to pay what they paid Stanton.

Weathers left to a $10 million, three-year deal from San Francisco on the table to sign with the Reds for two years and $5 million -- $500,000 less than Stanton’s deal.

“It took so long to get a deal done,” Weathers said. “If compared me to what every other guy was doing, I was doing my job as well better as anyone – with the saves, the holds and all that.

“You’re only human. You do feel underappreciated – or taken for granted,” Weathers said. “I felt that way. You sit around and see everyone else get rewarded.”


at 11:43 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Weathers did a great job last year but he was a lot like Danny Graves. Every opportunity was an experience. Not too many 1-2-3 saves. Line drives. Leaping catches. He got it done but not easy on the heart.

at 11:45 AM Anonymous LetsTalkReds.com said...

I never had confidence when Weathers was in the game last year. He looked good because he was in a terrible bullpen but overall he is nothing more than a little better than average. I held my breath many times last season when Weathers came in to close. Look back at some of his saves and they were not pretty.

Don't get me wrong, he is a valuable part of the bullpen this year but not a good closer. Last year was a great year for him when you look at his past stats. Career stats wise, its not terribly impressive.

My prediction is that Burton will become the 8th inning guy by the end of the season and Weathers will be 7th. I see them switching roles.

at 12:01 PM Blogger gogginguy said...

"You have your best season and you get demoted" He didn't get demoted -- his job is still to get guys out when it counts. Is it the reduction in glory that makes it feel that way? He knows his resume' coming into last year didn't qualify him for the closer role; he was simply the best of a very bad lot. However, a single quality season can't erase the forgettable/regrettable years prior. I don't blame him for not being a happy person, but as he claims to be the "only person" (hyperbole notwithstanding) he sounds dangerously close to labeling himself as "disruptive". Glad you vented, David if that's what you needed to feel a little better...now it's time to get on the bus to wherever greener pastures this team is headed.

at 12:19 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with these other posts. Weathers was in trouble nearly every time he took the mound. He won't keep getting away with that and the Reds know it. That's why the Reds looked for better options. Seems as if Weathers is the only person that does not recognize it.

at 12:19 PM Anonymous Jack in Blue Ash said...

I met david weathers..great guy..probably the funniest dude on the team. julie got his auotgraph.

yet, everytime the guy went out there it certainly was an adventure.. I would have to agree lets talkreds.com

From what I know of David..i dont think hes that disappointed in not closing. Hes pretty easy going and lets everything roll off of his shoulders

at 12:25 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

i love stormy. it was so awesome when he would get guys out and freak out and pump his fists.

when we first signed him, it was definitely like stealing outs, but he has become very servicable

he called my house and that was pretty cool

at 1:05 PM Blogger redfuture said...

Weathers did a great, great job last year. Cordero is definitely more suited to the Closer role than Stormy because he can go for the strike out when the situation calls for it. The closer, whether it is Rivera or anybody, is going to have some dicey games always. We are still going to squirm in our seats more than we like, but so are the fans of all the other teams.

at 1:08 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Weathers is great. It sounds to me like he was just being honest, not being a troublemaker or a whiner. I had confidence in him last year, because he continually got the job done - it's pretty common over the years, even for good closers, that they make it interesting before finishing it off.

Give the guy a break. How would you feel in your job if you performed at Weathers' level, and got paid less than a guy that performed at Stanton's level and not much more (if any?) than a guy like Coffey?

at 1:12 PM Anonymous Jack in Blue Ash said...

redfuture..I dont agree.. furthermore as much as I like weathers. all games were dicey with him closing..not just a few ..he is not a true closer.

Julie even agrees with me and she really did not pay attention to anything that happened after the 7th inning

at 1:15 PM Blogger C-Lo said...

So, why have none of you compared him to Stanton? Stanton has been HORRIBLE. I completely understand Weathers' argument in that case.

at 1:28 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know, I'm sure that most if not all of the Reds are nice guys and great to meet or know but from a pure baseball perspective, Weathers is not a closer and is a questionable set-up 8th inning guy. I doubt this team wins until Weathers, Stanton, and a few others (Majewski, Coutlangus) are off the team.

Sorry but I don't care how funny Weathers is, I care about how consistently effective he can be at his job. Tenuous at best is not good enough.

at 1:42 PM Anonymous Jack in Blue Ash said...

been saying that for months anon 1:28

but julie and I dont care..we are honored to have the ability to take games in at GABP and we will enjoy ourselves regardless of outcomes

good post anon 1:28

at 1:55 PM Anonymous LetsTalkReds.com said...

Keeping Mike Stanton and Todd Coffey on this team would be a dis-service to the entire fan base that has continued to support them. Anyone else realize that (and stats prove this) the bengals have been more successful in the last 15 years? Strange when you think about it. Playoffs anyone?

at 1:55 PM Blogger redfuture said...

I for one have felt very comfortable with Weathers for his entire tenure. Does he blow some saves?... Sure, everybody does except the roid-ed up Gagne with the Dodgers one year. I'll tell who make me uncomfortable: Majewski, Stanton, Bray, and Coffey. I hold out a little bit of hope for Todd on the basis of his singular outing this spring.
Stormy faced the minimum of 3 15 times, 4 once, 5 twice, and even 9 once. He faced one more than the minimum of 4 17 times, 3 twice, 2 once, and 5 twice. That's at least 41 times that fans should not have gotten ants in their pants!

at 3:03 PM Anonymous Z money said...

Dave....i dont know how to say this, you suck...Cordero is a huge upgrade. I dont know how to break this to you, you're washed up, gahbage!!!!!!!!!!

at 7:01 PM Blogger Monclova Steve said...

Z money,
That's what we like to see! Someone who backs up his opinion with ..... ah well, nothing.
Nice job spelling "suck" though.

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