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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Thursday, February 21, 2008

Wilson no longer in camp

Outfielder/frist base Craig Wilson is no longer in camp. He was here yesterday for his physical, so that tells you something. The Reds haven't announced anything, but they likely will soon.

Wilson was expected to compete for a backup role as a right-handed bat off the bench.


at 11:14 AM Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

Now we can sign Lofton, Just kidding (I hope).

at 11:43 AM Blogger capadgett said...

Wilson wasn't on the active roster so it doesn't clear a spot for Lofton.

at 11:53 AM Blogger steve said...

Can you tell us the difference with how this camp is being ran by dusty compared to how all of the other camps you have been to? Also is dusty working with the hitters much this spring or just sitting back and watching?

at 12:09 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wilson is no big loss. Please don't sign Fogg. He is a bum plain and simple. Let the young guys throw or sign a real starter but enough with the pirates re-treads. They are the worst team in baseball.

at 12:15 PM Blogger AHarpoon22 said...

Looks like the Reds have signed Fogg to a 1 year deal according

at 12:38 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone asked John yesterday which players have options. On yesterday's Spring Training Notebook put out by the Reds themselves, they claimed the following players were OUT of options:

RHP Bronson Arroyo, IF Juan Castro, RHP Francisco Cordero, IF/OF Ryan Freel, 1B Scott Hatteberg, IF/OF Jeff Keppinger, 2B Brandon Phillips, C David Ross, C Javier Valentin and RHP David Weathers.

Other than Sergio Valenzuela, it doesn't look like we are stuck with trying to keep anyone on the 25-man roster that does not belong (non-roster invitees and their option status don't matter until they're added to the 40-man).

Also remember, that vested veterans (like Griffey and Stanton, or even Castro or Weathers) can refuse minor league assignments. Castro will probably start the year out on the DL anyway. If Castro and Keppinger were both playing for the same position, the lack of options for Keppinger could be a problem, but luckily it won't until Castro can throw the ball.

Now if only I can figure out how the Dallas Mavericks traded a retired player to the New Jersey Nets and the commish's office approved it...


at 12:55 PM Blogger Al in Ohio said...

I'm curious to know how some of you that considered the hiring of Dusty Baker as a fantastic move because of his prior Manager of the Year status now reconcile that happiness with your opposition to the signing of Josh Fogg, which Baker seems to agree with.

Is Baker being fooled? Is he just being a company guy? Is he a poorer judge of pitching talent than you are? Or could it be, that as the manager, he recognizes that he is evaluated by the results on the field, and that with another veteran possibility for the rotation those results may be better than if he has to go with 2-3 completely unproven starters?

at 2:11 PM Anonymous Jack in Blue Ash said...

I always considered the 3.5 million dollar hiring Of Dusty..foolish. I dont think the signing of Fogg will have any impact on this team. Hes a .500 pitcher .

I would have rather we had signed Gerardi or even Ron Oester as a manager. This team needs discipline and focus..not some good ole boy that brings his son in the dugout and plays favorites

Who was Wilson..did I miss something?

at 2:37 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard that Wilson had to leave camp to have emergency surgery on his mullet.

at 6:10 PM Blogger BATSFAN said...

Oh well we didnt need Wilson anyway, so what is the deal at first is it going to be Hatteburg or Votto, I think Votto is great but they need to keep Scott around just incase Joey decides to go on a 0 for 30 streak. I went to almost all of the bats games before ive seen him do that like a couple times. I predict Hatteburg opening day first basebman.

at 7:25 PM Blogger Mr. Redlegs said...

Yes, Jack, make Ron Oester the manager. A guy whose personality would have caused a clubhouse mutiny in two months.

Yep, fire and brimstone, that wins games, too, just like chemistry.

Dusty Baker, finishes first or second in 9 of 15 seasons managing but somehow he's a bum. Ron Oester? Ever wonder why he's not in the game?

Of course not.

Girardi? Do you read? Do you keep up? he turned down jobs left and right because he did not want to be part of rebuilding. He wanted the Yankees, Mets, Cubs or White Sox. Period.

Can't "sign" someone who doesn't want to be signed. Duh.

at 7:34 PM Blogger BubbaFan said...

Bummer. I like Craig Wilson. I was hoping he'd bounce back from last year's injury and surgery. The Reds could use some right-handed power off the bench.

at 7:51 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

well if you couldn't figure out why they signed Mr. Wilson and if you cant figure out why they signed Fogg today maybe this will help you. They signed Wilson and most likely intended to trade Votto to the A's in the deal that we kept hearing about with Blanton, whom I wish we had.

They signed Fogg because they cant get the deal done for Blanton. Fogg is a bust, has no meaning to this team they could have singed Hernandez to a deal. Bottom line is that this team is going to be bad once again. What a shame.

and on Dusty Baker, he is a pitcher killer. Loves to over work those boys and if you need two examples I give you Mark Prior and Kerry Woods.

at 10:30 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

how does one not pass a physical?

at 12:35 AM Blogger BubbaFan said...

The reason Craig Wilson struggled last year was because of a shoulder injury. IIRC, he had chronic shoulder tendinitis, caused by bone spurs. Anyway, he had surgery for it in June, and was on DL for the rest of the season.

I assume the problem is with his shoulder. Shoulder surgery is unpredictable. Teams send their players off for Tommy John surgery at the drop of a hat, but with a shoulder problem, surgery is a last resort, because it's just a lot more complicated than elbow surgery.

at 2:26 AM Blogger cincikid said...

Even though I like Wilson and would have liked him even more in the line up I'm glad that this happened now and not sometime in the beginning of the season. I do think we should maybe target a righthanded bat sometime before the all star break. Even if it where a platoon guy I think a dependable right handed bat would make a world of difference in our offense.

at 8:36 AM Anonymous Jack in Blue Ash said...

joe Girardi was in town last October actually actually looking for a home Redlegs and he was at my fathers country club playing golf with a Reds official

John Fay perhaps would know better than most of us..yet Girardi did not turn down the Reds

Dusty Baker lost whatever magic he once had..he was run outta town in Chicago

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