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Friday, March 14, 2008

Lineups for the split squad (update)

This is the last day without radio. WLW will carry the rest of the games.

Home v. Yankees
Corey Patterson CF
Jaun Castro SS
Junior Griffey RF
Adam Dunn LF
Joey Votto 1B
Jolbert Cabrera 2B
Javy Valentin C
Andy Breen 3B
Jerry Hairston DH

Matt Belisle P

The Yankees brought lot of the A team:
Johnny Damon CF
Derek Jeter SS
Hideki Matsui DH
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Jorge Posada C
Shelley Lane 1B
Jason Lane RF
Cody Ransom 2B
Brett Gardner LF

Phil Hughes P

Away v. Pirates
Ryan Freel CF
Norris Hopper LF
Brandon Phillips 2B
Edwin Encarnacion 3B
Scott Hatteberg 1B
Jeff Keppinger SS
Jay Bruce RF
Paul Bako C
Andy Phillips DH

Josh Fogg P


at 10:02 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two losses today with those lineups. Let's hope he gets it right when he has a full squad. That would mean Patterson bats no higher than 8th.

at 10:06 AM Blogger WVU Eyes and 'Eers said...

Just curious... Is the main reason the majority of posters here don't like Patterson is because he played for Baker before?

at 10:18 AM Blogger docproc said...

Interesting that he's essentially using three center fielders in the away game.

at 10:36 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

WVU, NO! The reason people don't like Patterson is because he has an on base percentage of under .300 for his career. He's a lousy hitter.

at 10:39 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

...and because it appears he's basically being handed a platoon spot in CF at the expense of Bruce since it makes filling out the lineup card easier for dusty and saves the reds money on bruce in the long run...

at 10:39 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

After a recent business trip in Boston and to visit friends the word is Coco Crisp might be leaving and Freel is their number one target for replacement. It appears that way with the influx of utility playes and center fielders filling the pipeline. Freel's days are numbered in Cincinnati or better still Sarasota...????

at 10:45 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Freel headed to Boston.....????

at 10:52 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't care where, as long as Freel leaves.

at 11:10 AM Anonymous firefly118 said...

I don't dislike Patterson, but he isn't a major league starter. At best, he is a good bench player with situational speed on the bags. If he were that good another team would have been after him. Secondarily, I don't understand why you would not trade a prospect (#1 by most people) and then not play him. Jay Bruce is still here, HE SHOULD BE YOUR EVERYDAY CF. The future is now, and we are not the Yanks or Sox, why would we not play our brightest star. If the argument is, he is not major league ready, that doesn't say a lot for us! Other prospects rated lower than he are on rosters and playing, so why not Bruce. Bottom line, he needs the major league experience, and honestly Freel, Hopper, Patterson, and Dickerson are not better than Bruce. In reference to the Big Boy Business stated in a previous post, you are right, and you don't sell tickets with Patterson and Hatteberg! Opening day roster looks like this!



(Jury is still out on the #5. It could be any number of guys, and since that starter doesn't see the same rotation throughout the year because of off days, it could be a combination of all. Affeldt doesn't make the team, Fogg is lucky to stay but could be used for long relief. The new lefty I am not sure about, but probably makes it by default because he is a lefty. I think Bailey and Volquez rotate in and out of the #5 and both see a lot of 1 inning time in relief.) Which is pretty good if you think about it, you get to keep these promising young stars in the majors, they get good work in situational positions, and it allows you to make moves throughout a game for hitting purposes.

THE POINT OF MY RAMBLING IS, I would be surprised if we have a winning record, and we are not going to be in a playoff hunt, so the fans will only pay to see our budding young stars perform and audition for the preverbial? FUTURE!

at 1:18 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

people dislike patterson because they want bruce in CF...duh

at 1:19 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

dunn 3rd, and junior griffey 5th? so much for no drama in the clubhouse! not to mention the fact that it doesnt even make sense

at 1:22 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would have no problem with Patterson playing in CF over Bruce if he could take a walk. If his OBP was above .360, I'd welcome the speed at the top of the order, the needed range in CF (Griffey and Dunn are slow), and some additional development for Bruce at AAA. This team hasn't had a good leadoff hitter in years.

at 2:00 PM Anonymous firefly118 said...

Anon 12:19: Why doesn't it make sense?

Griffey is a better contact hitter and has a better average!

Dunn needs to see as many good pitches as possible to get on base more!

#3 hitter will see about 60% better pitches than the #5, especially with a good hitter at #2 and a really good hitter at #4.

I will try and take it slow for ya!

The pitcher is not going to want to walk the #3 guy, especially when #1 or #2 (maybe both) are on base, and he doesn't want to have to pitch (throw fastball strikes) to the #4 guy.

That is why Dunn should bat #3 to get as much out of him as you can. If you don't, he bats .240 and has another 100k season. If he does bat #3 he would be around .275 with 70k.

AS FAR AS DRAMA IN THE CLUBHOUSE, thats about dumb......This isn't highschool, this is the pros, and Dusty was brought in to knock that stuff off.....(i.e see the story about Dusty's 2nd day in camp with Dunn and Griffey)


at 3:08 PM Blogger WVU Eyes and 'Eers said...

Thanks for answering. I try not to dislike someone just because I think someone else should be playing instead of them. My opinion is that Bruce does not have enough experience to be given the job as regular CF. (He hasn't even played a game up here yet.) Sharing it with Hopper/Patterson first might do him some good.

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