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Thursday, October 18, 2007

Coaches named

When I filed my story at 6:10 or so, I said this means the Reds will announce the coaches in a half hour or so. Hopefully, my ESP working at Keeneland tomorrow. Anyhow, from the Reds:

CINCINNATI - The Cincinnati Reds today announced that Major League coaches Mark Berry, Billy Hatcher, Brook Jacoby and Dick Pole along with bullpen catcher Mike Stefanski will be offered contracts for the 2008 season.

The club also announced that bullpen coach Tom Hume will not be offered a contract and that bench coach Pat Kelly has been reassigned within the organization.

The bullpen coach and bench coach vacancies on new manager Dusty Baker's staff will be filled in the near future.

Berry will return for his 25th season in the organization and for his 10th year on the Major League coaching staff. He has been the club’s third base coach the last 4 seasons.

Hatcher has been with the organization for 2 years, both as first base coach.

Jacoby and Pole will return for their second seasons as hitting coach and pitching coach, respectively.

Stefanski will return for his fifth straight season as bullpen catcher.

Hume was with the organization for 11 seasons as bullpen coach and for 1 season (2006) as pitching coach.

Kelly will return as manager of the organization's Gulf Coast League Sarasota affiliate and as director of Florida on-field operations, positions he held last season until he was named interim manager Pete Mackanin's bench coach on July 3.

No real shockers here. Hume got caught in the numbers game. The bullpen struggles were not his fault. Hard to blame him for Mike Stanton's woes or the failure of all those rookies.

The bench coach is going to be an infield guy is my guess.


at 7:44 PM Blogger Phill said...

It's nice that things are moving along for right now.

at 7:50 PM Blogger steve said...

what have you heard about johnny narron? have you heard any names for the last two openings?

at 8:24 PM Blogger JDGood said...

Wendall Kim is an infield guy isn't he?

at 9:32 PM Blogger Mr. Redlegs said...

Uh, Mackanin was an infielder, and a pretty good one. Could he be the bench coach, too, once he sees what other opps are out there?

Probably not.

at 6:51 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why haven't they expressed any interest in Leo Mazzone? It's not like Pole worked any miracles with the pitching staff. I do realize he worked with Dusty before, but c'mon. Old-cronyism isn't going to win any championships.

Look what Mazzone did with all those young pitchers in Atlanta.

at 9:46 AM Blogger Hey Barry Larkin! said...

Good luck in the future Tom Hume! Thanks for 11 years.

at 10:37 AM Blogger Luke said...

Any truth to the rumor that the Reds are interested in Torii Hunter? If so what does this mean for our current outfield? A Griff trade? or maybe they let Dunn walk?

at 12:01 PM Blogger Al in Ohio said...

To Anonymous at 5:51 AM, if we're going to credit Leo Mazzone with establishing Glavine and Smoltz as big-time starters (an iffy proposition at best, and Maddux was an established star before he signed with the Braves), then we also have to judge him on doing nothing to help the young starters in Baltimore (whose talent level is much closer to that of the Reds pitchers than Atlanta's 1990s rotation).

at 12:19 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Retaining that many coaches has to be some sort of record for a new manager coming in (at season's end) from outside the organization.

Dusty referenced that some guys who used to play for him might be interested in coming.

Anyone have a list fo free agents who fit that description? A list of others who might be available via trade?

at 12:58 PM Blogger cincikid said...

I don't see the Reds shelling out the bucks for Hunter. There will be a bidding war for his services him being probably the best outfielder available this offseason. Which is debatable with Andrew Jones and Rowand out there. I could see how he would probably like to play for Dusty and in Cinci, but not so much that he would give a discount. Besides too many questions in the outfield already. Dunn, Griffey, Freel, Hopper, Hamilton, Bruce,....

at 1:18 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

At what point will they say, Sorry Dusty, but if there's anyone on the team the fans hate more than you, it's Dick Pole?

As for Hume, I'd been a fan of his since 81. It's a little cold-blooded to just let a guy who's been part of the team for decades go. Couldn't they have offered him a minor league job or a scouting job?

at 1:43 PM Blogger Mr. Redlegs said...

The prediction here is the minute Ron Guidry is fired as Yankees pitching coach, and that's pretty much a foregone conclusion, Leo Mazzone replaces him.

Mazzone grew up a huge Yankees fan and has said he'd die to wear the pinstripes.

Given Mazzone's specialization in working with older pitchers and reclamation projects--his work with younger pitchers is openly questionable, especially after the past two years in Baltimore--the Yankees are likely the better fit.

at 3:02 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why keep all of those coaches but let Tom Hume go? Tom was loyal to the organization and all of those years he was here that the Reds had poor teams the bullpen usually outperformed other areas of the team. This year Krivsky gives him garbage to work with and then makes him one of two coaches not invited back. At least Pat Kelly was offered a job in the organization. I am glad the Reds hired Dusty, but I don't believe for a minute that it was Dusty's choice to keep these 4 particular coaches, have 1 reassigned and 1 let go. I don't think we are all that naive. I think Krivsky just wants a bunch of yes men. I guess we will see next year if Dusty can pick more of his own coaches. High profile managers are always allowed to bring their choice of coaches with the exception of 1 or 2 organizational holdovers. Something seems fishy.

at 7:30 PM Blogger Phill said...

I heard that Bucky Dent is going to be the manager next year for the Yankees and that Jerry Narron will be his bench coach.

By "I heard" I mean I just made up because of it's absurdity.

at 9:00 PM Anonymous Sam said...

Anon 2:02, interesting analysis. It does seem strange to let Hume be the 1 fall guy. I guess loyalty got him nowhere. A real class guy who did a good job with what he was given to work with. Usually, these high profile managers are only stuck with 1 organizational guy. It does seem strange.

at 10:24 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Phill, if you got nothing to say, it's OK...you don't have to post anything, we won't think any less of you.

Hey, the Yankees already tried Dent out as manager. He totally made like a Hoover! You want to know how bad he was as manager? They actually thought Stump Merrill would be an upgrade!

Narron will manage in the majors again someday. However, I wonder if Krivsky hasn't ruled out hiring him for a minor league job?

at 10:31 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

As for Hume, I wonder if he became a bargaining chip. Suppose Krivsky told Baker, we're looking for another pitching coach and Baker said, well let me keep Pole on staff some how. Krivsky figured sacrificing Hume would be better than keeping Pole in charge of the pitchers.
Ah, well, wishful thinking. But still, it had been said certain coaches would be retained, but not neccessarily at the same jobs

at 11:46 PM Anonymous CHEVIOT SPORTS AUTHORITY said...

Yeah, Narron will manage in the majors again........right after Bob Boone.

at 9:08 PM Blogger Mark said...

Hume let go... Hmm... I knew they'd eventually hear enough whining from me about him;-) Ha!

He's not the fall guy... he's the guy who needed to leave a long time ago.

I just think it took the organization 11 years to find him hiding in one of the dark corners of the bullpen!

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