On Narron
I'm not at the park. But I can see from my email that Ryan Freel is starting at second base. It's the first time since July 5 of last year.
From the e-mailers and posters, I can say that Jerry Narron is officially on the hot seat -- at least as far as fans are concerned. Bob Castellini doesn't e-mail or post on the blog, so I can't say for sure if Narron is actually in any danger. But I can say that Castellini is not overly patient. If he views the Reds' failures as Narron's fault, something could happen.
While I don't think Narron is blameless, I think the problem is bullpen. The Reds have no closer. So the eighth inning guys are pitching in the ninth, seventh inning guys are pitching eighth, and so on. With good relief pitching, the Reds win two of three in Houston and the first two with Colorado. Instead, they're on four-game losing streak, and fans want someone fired.
Five games are left on this homestand. The Reds better win at least three or them or that hot seat will get a lot hotter.
posted by John Fay at 2:46 PM
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Post a Comment*If Mr. Castellini reads this blog, perhaps he'll make a move and they'll do something with the bullpen and Narron and this season can be salvaged.
The problem is also that the team has no set line up. Too much attention to match-ups and not enough attention to who understands how to play the game and what is expected at a particular position in the line-up.
Sure, it's not ALL on Narron... he's not the one out there holding or closing games.
However, its the way professional cookie crumbles. A team that continues to lose, hell... even play at .500, will not make a postseason. Things need to be shaken up, and with a consistently losing team, the manager is the easiest spot to point to.
If I were Castellini, I'd already have an ad in the Enquirer classifieds.
At least some public dissatisfaction from the ownership (ala The Boss) would rattle some of the players AND coaching cages.
john, i gree that the seat should get warm. what do you think about these two words. bobby valentine.
Doesn't Wayne Krivsky belong on the hot seat more so than Jerry Narron. Jerry can only run the guys out there that Krivsky acquired. Stanton has been a bust, Cormier was a disaster, he was snookered by Jim Bowden in the Majewski/Bray debacle and over paid to keep David Weathers.
Krivsky definitely should not be fired. Yeah he had a couple bad moves but overall his moves are the reason we can actually field a competitive team in the first place. Without trading Pena for Arroyo, we suck. Without getting Brandon Phillips we suck. Without getting Hatteburg we suck. Without getting Josh Hamilton the ROY we suck. Lay off Krivsky. He is not perfect, he is a good GM.
There is an excellent Major League closer sitting up at Washington Courthouse. He retired because he only wants to pitch for one team, the Reds. Of course, he is younger than most of the guys in the Reds bullpen. Wayne, take a drive up I-71 and visit Jeff Shaw.
Agree that Narron's seat should at least be getting warm. But Krivsky should not be getting a free pass either. Nearly every player on this sub .500 team was brought in by him. He should be held accountable for that.
To fire Jerry Narron is to fire Johnny Narron as well, and I wouldn't want to mess up the Josh Hamilton recovery at all. You're talking about a guy that could be a franchise player for 10 years.
Jerry is responsible alright. He is responsible for finding and bringing one of the most talented players this franchise has seen in a few years, Josh Hamilton. For this reason alone, he gets a free pass this year from me. That along with the fact that he is working with the pitching talent available. Let's eat Milton's contract and bring up one of the the talented players from Louisville. That will be step 2. Step 1 was bringing up Brad Salmon.
excellent point about johnny narron. but you can't be held hostage for eternity. time to bring up a pitcher from louisville.glad phillips got a day off. good to see freel start to hit.
stat of the day... the reds are 11th in the national league in hitting with 2 out and runners in scoring position.
second stat of the day...only 2 national league teams have allowed more unearned runs.
Those of you who absurdly state that Krivsky should be fired, or even on the hot seat, 15 months into the job are rendered baseball incompetent.
All he's done is make this sad sack organization better from top to bottom, and because of his boldness this team was in the race last year when it had no business.
According to almost every preseason review this year's bunch is no better than a fourth place team. Five weeks into the season, what have you seen that contradicts those predictions?
The Reds are getting stronger in the minors, they have some good young core players to build around, they have their top pitchers signed to extensions, and barring a $100 million spending spree, rebuilding an organization this downtrodden takes a few years.
If not for Krivsky's moves last year and a handful this year, this team would be so much worse than the young Pirates that it's a laugher.
But hey, trading away that head case Lopez and that noose-hanger Kearns somehow ruined the team? Krivsky should be fired for saving $10 million in salary on those two milk duds? Sure. They weren't gonna wn with them, and neither is Washington.
I'm not one of the people calling for Krivsky to get fired - and I don't think anyone really was. But I do agree that he should be held accountable for his roster.....a roster that is under .500. These are his guys, and as a team, they are performing below average.
Maybe it's only been 15 months....but when you haven't had a winning season in 7 years and a playoff appearance in over a decade, patience is thin. And frankly, this team is on pace to win as many games as they did 2 years ago, 3 years ago, and 4 years ago. So, I don't see that much improvement....yet. I'll give him some time and benefit of the doubt for now. But if this team finishes with 70-80 wins again, then I think ol' Wayne's seat at least deserves to get a little warm.
Oh yeah, let's blame Krivsky for the terrible organization he inherited. How about we reverse these moves and see where we would be?
Arroyo for Wily Mo
Jason LaRue is your catcher (check our pitcher's ERA when he was here)
Gonzalez for Lopez
Phillips gone
Hamilton in the A's organization underachieving Kearns in right
Lohse gone
Freel's contract not extended
Harang lost to free agency
There are move brilliant Krivsky moves coming, and we are still a year or two away from having the next Rich Hill, Zach Duke, or Ben Sheets. His name is Homer Bailey.
Milton will be gone soon, and we still have some nice talent in Louisville (Livingston, Salmon, Burton, and Bailey).
This year is a transition year.
How about spending some time and money on a true closer? Or make Salmon the closer! We need something done ASAP - yesterday if we plan to stay in the hunt. Milwaukee has two studs for the 8th and 9th innings, not a surprise they are in first.
Dan O'Brien was one of the worst GMs of all time. Not just with Reds, but with any organization. So, it's wonderful that Krivsky is better than that. But if that's the standard by which Krivsky is judged, then we're in trouble. Let's set the bar a little higher. There are only N.L. 5 teams with worse records than the Reds right now. And 2 of them were in the World Series the last 2 years, so they deserve some slack. The GMs of the other teams at least deserve to feel a little pressure.....even if it's only been 15 months. It's a tough industry.
The main problem on this team is the bullpen and Wayne Krivsky has not been able to fix that. What he got back from Wshington for Lopez and Kearns was not equitable. He traded for Guardado even though he was warned that Eddie's arm was about to fall off. Stanton is a one batter, get the lefty out guy at this point of his career and is being asked to be a set up guy. Weathers is a decent set up guy being asked to close. Krivsky has made some good moves and deserves praise for those moves but also has to take responsbility for the poor moves he's made.
No, Krivsky doesn't have to take responsibility because he answers to Castellini., not anonymous bloggers. The organization is miles ahead of where it was two seasons ago. Results are not just wins and losses. And if you think Krivsky has made moves without the owner's knowledge, you, too, are "baseball incompetent."
Mr. RedLegs, have you been drinking the Krivsky KoolAid? He is responsible for the players on this roster. The bullpen is deplorable and Wayne has not been able to adequately address it. As for your comments,instead of addressing any of the points in the previous post, you simply start calling names. If you want to talk about baseball incompetence try this on for size. Two every day players, one a former all star for an unproven left hander and a guy with a bum shoulder. Or how about extending the contract of the worst pitcher in your bullpen. How about spending $5 million in the off season on two broken down 40 year old relief pitchers. And don't get me started on the wisdom of carrying 3 catchers.
oh, we forgot that Mr. Redlegs knows everything about baseball and everyone else knows nothing. clearly, wins and losses are not a good barometer of how an organization is progressing. so it doesn't matter that this team's record is no better than it was 2 or 5 years ago. thanks for clearing that up and blessing us with your infinte baseball knowledge, Mr. Redlegs.
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