Press conference comments
Comments from the Reds' 4 p.m. press conference.
Bob Castellini:
"I don't think anyone in the organization is happy with the results in a won-loss basis. We've had two losing seasons under the new ownership. We started this season poorly ... and that's the primary reason we made the change."
"This has been a very tough decision. And Wayne Krivsky did a whale of a job in so many areas. We've just come to a point where ... we're just not going to lose any more."
Walt Jocketty:
"Bob came to me last night and asked if I was ready to do this for him. We talked about it for a while and it's been 6 months ... it was a tough decision. I talked to my wife, my kids. I knew this was tough for Bob. I know it's tough replacing Wayne. ... I'm charged up and ready to go and I think this organization is going in the right direction. I talked to Bob quite a bit a few years ago when he was contemplating buying this franchise and we talked at the time about what a great franchise this was, the history of the franchise, and how it was very similar to the situation I had in St. Louis, with a winning tradition, great fans and great community. But they hadn't won in St. Louis in a long time either. So there are a lot of similarities."
"Trust me, me and Dusty are very motivated. We're both guys with a vendetta and chip on our shoulders."
"I think one thing I talked with Dusty about today ... we need to change the culture and mindset to have everyone believe we can win. ... You have to surround yourself with positive people. We'll evaluate that in the coming weeks and months."
"It's a great ownership group. That's the main reason I came here in the first place. ... I know how dedicated they are in making this a first-class organization and a winning franchise."
"Both Dusty and I hate losing. We're not going to stand for it."
"I will at some point (address the team). I've discussed that with the staff a little bit today. ... We may wait until we get on the road to do it."
"At some point we may have to change the personnel but right now we're going to stay with the guys we have."
posted by Tim Curtis at 3:58 PM
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Post a Comment*Wow. I heard BC say "we are not going to lose anymore!" That can only mean more changes.
This feels just way to trigger happy. If we go on to win this season, Krivsky will get no love even though this is his team. I don't think I like it after only 21games! It's still April for pete's sake!!
Both Dusty and I hate losing. We're not going to stand for it.
This is such a goofy thing to say. Are there people who like losing? Is Jocketty implying that Krivsky is one of them?
And how does this "not standing for losing" manifest itself?
YES-YES-YES....Bob C.you are a great man!!!We will now have a chance to get better,with the arrogant,incompetent,misfit gone !! I will start buying tickets TODAY!!!!!
Believe it or not maybe we are afraid of winning in Cincinnati with either one of our professional franchises. We have become so accustomed to losing , losing has become our comfortable friend.
I love what Mr Castellini said and has done. Lets keep our fingers crossed. I am so excited I am going to the game tonight
I hope Mike Brown was paying attention. thanks
T
Shades of Steinbrenner, IMO.
Krivsky's biggest sin (other than being a bit of a jerk) was to let Castellini promise immediate wins, when the two of them inherieted an organization berift of high-level prospects, one good pitcher, and a flawed big league roster.
Castellini fired Krivsky for wasting so much of Bob's money--the results on the field are more the fault of Baker being a lousy motivator and lousy manager. Bob's in denial about that. I nearly puked when Bob said, on WLW just now, that Baker's acquisition was the best during Bob's tenure here. What nonsense. There were better manager available when the Reds precipitously hired Baker; when Krivsky overpaid by several million for him. And Phillips, Hamilton passing through, and now Volquez are acquisitions that were truly BIG for this franchise.
Bob is in big denial over Arroyo. To me, Bob stills sounds pretty clueless. Hopefully Walt will make up for that lack.
Why can't Jay Bruce be our Ellsbury? The Royals played Gordon last year, and now he's having a better year. Bob and Walt need to get their heads out of the sand, put Jay Bruce in Center and leadoff, and LEAVE HIM THERE ALL DARN SEASON LONG.
Until they do that, this will remain a losing franchise.
Kirvsky has been a great GM for the Reds. Look at what he has done. He got Phillips, Volquez, Cordero, Lincoln, Keppinger, Hopper, Patterson, Hariston, JR. He has signed some stars for some long term deals at very resonale market prices(PHillips). He has mostly avoided the enermous higher risk older star contracts that usually fail. He has the smarts to allow young players to play when they are ready (Votto, Volquez, Cueto). He knows the reds are a small market club and cannot spend 100+ million and make a profit. So he has limits in what he does and has to be careful in spending money. He is one of the best spotters of talent I have seen in a very long time! This is an enormous mistake. We shall see?
"Wayne did a whale of a job . . . we're not going to lose any more"
I haven't chimed in on other posts.
I thought Wayne Krivsky did a great job. He didn't get enough time. I'm also happy to have Jockety and am glad Big Bob wasn't buddies with some schmuck-ex-GM.
I'm glad Big Bob recodnized Krivsky did "a whale of a job".
I'm happy with Jockety long term. I'm concerned about the immediate future. Arroyo needs to have a solid outing tonight.
I'm in the military and stationed in Illinois, so I'm not alwyas up to speed on everything that's going on inside the Reds, but this just seems a little to sudden and a little to early for my liking. When you're 5 games out in the division to a team you haven't even played yet, and only three games under .500, firing your GM seems a little over the top. This team is, I think, one starting pitcher and some consistent hitting away from competing for the division.
What was happening behind the scenes that made this happen? With the pieces the Reds have in the minors, the future WK has given this team looks pretty good
Those without winning attitudes will have a hard time surviving now. Like guys who don't slide or run into catchers in close ballgames.
St CSA
The Reds have done nothing but lose for 5+ years. So what is the big risk in making a change. We are not protecting a winning recent history. Who is expendable? Griffy, Dunn, Arroya. Who is an untouchable? Hurang.. that's it. But I do like Phillips.
I love the idea of shaking it up when it is still recoverable. Last year if we'd have gotten rid of Jerry Narron sooner we might have ended up in 3rd place (Going by Pete Mackanin's 0.513 winning percentage).
We get rid of narron last year at 21 games and we're 2 behind the cards at the end, in theory. We also might have done better knowing we still had a fighting chance. Like we do now.
Horray Horray Walt Jockety is going to hit home runs and we know he is the right handed bat we need.......only kidding. I do believe that when you look at 10,975,000.00 in lost contracts you have to say wow. I don't think you can allow for that many errors for any gm no matter how bad the scouts let him down. Now can we get that scout back that found Cueto. Why did Wayne chase him off?
Another presser where everyone "says all the right things".
First Pick 2 catchers
Second Adios Fogg and Coffey
Third get Bailey and Bruce up here.
I don't think Walt is going to get many hits but we have to look at who made the Corey Patterson deal. If Wayne had nothing to do with that then he got the raw end of the deal, but the writing was on the wall as if he couldn't tell. When you make 10,975,000.00 in lost contracts(Stanton, Castro, Patterson, Freel)you have to live with the consequences. Wayne also chased away the scout that found Cueto for us so there seems to be some arrongance on his part. If REDS fans feel that this will put us on the winning track I think I have some land under a bridge to sell you. The REDS need a legitimate leadoff hitter that can hit.(what about Hairston.lifetime...254 hitter) It might be next year till we get the pieces we need. I just don't see the REDS hitting enough to get to the playoffs with the holes in their lineup. I sure do hope that I am wrong and eating crow when the playoffs start.
Cannot say as this shocks me but it was unexpected due to the timing of it. It seems a bit hasty. I would have waited until after the all star break before making such a huge decision. Its hardly Wayne's fault the team isn't hitting well yet. It was probably going to happen sooner than later but he deserved more time this year.
I guess I would have done the same thing, but I was really hoping it would work out. I think Wayne did some great things--Phillips, Volquez,Hamilton, Kepplinger. I am sorry to see him go, but---
GO REDS!!!!! I'm tired of waiting, too.
DB & WJ dont stand for losing, that is easily the dumbest quote I've ever heard. IDP was right on there.
I have never understood why people got so offended by kriv's "arrogance" or lack of media attention. No offense john, i love reading your stuff, but the media tends to get in the way of teams winning sometimes. Dusty has the right idea, pick a time for the media and just deal with them. The GM however has way more things to deal with and I for one don't want him spending ANY time talking to the media.
come on people, who cares how arrogant your GM is, its sad you get so worked up over it.
I wonder if Wayne was given an opportunity to share in his duties. Somehow from John's comments it does not sound like he was the sharing type. I for one am glad that we have an owner who is not willing to make the hard decision or is not complacent with being an average or almost average team.
Hopefully Jock can bring back the reds. Otherwise, hopefully Bob can and will pull the trigger again when the time comes.
I know that action is not always best, but I congratulate Bob on trying to at least make things happen. That is more than Carl did in his time here.
Blaming the poor start on the GM is ludicrous, particularly in this situation, where the $ is relatively short and Dusty probably wasn't solely Wayne's choice. It's obvious that Castellini wanted Jocketty in and just waited until he felt he had cover.
I believe Krivsky did well as Reds GM and that this is basically a mistake. But--let's hope for some W's under Jocketty, nonetheless.
"a vendetta"?? What is that?
So, they were both ousted from other teams in our division and now they're using the Reds franchise to exact revenge?
Wow, sounds like I just gotta get on board with that line of thinking. That sure spells loyalty/respect for the Reds to me!
Please just tell me these men are not on a petty war of vengeance with our baseball team.
I make a prediction that Baker is gone the first chance he gets after whatever success he may achieve here. He doesn't strike me as a loyal guy, and Cincinnati may be too provincial for him.
Go REDS! or Go ex-NL Central guys! or something.
I dont like this one bit. 21 games is too soon. What could Jocketty do that Krivsky couldnt now to turn this around? Seems like a knee jerk move to me.
"Both Dusty and I hate losing. We're not going to stand for it."
That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. As opposed to every other MLB manager and GM? What does that prove? How does that help? Do the Yankees and Red Sox GMs and MGRs hate losing more than the Royals and Pirates GMs and MGRs? Please. If that's all we've got to count on, we're in trouble.
I know I'm in the minority here, but I thought Krivsky was a really good GM and I am a bit worried about Walt Jockety. Good luck to Wayne in the future, and lets hope this doesn't change the reds trajectory. We need Bruce in the majors in the next 2 months or so, and we need to make an attempt to see if Griffey will re-sign for less $$ per year (with alot of incentives for stats), and we need to lose Encarnacion and Dunn. I felt like Krivsky was headed that direction.....now we'll see.
While I have to agree that the timing of this seems more than a little bit odd, it was inevitable. I figured it would come in the off season, because that is when most GM changes are made. I could give you a long list of Krivsky's failings and a shorter list of his positive moves, but all that aside what really stikes me as his biggest failing, was his inability to change the culture on this team. Despite what an earlier poster stated, not everyone hates to lose. In my view the Reds have a significant segment of their team that are okay with losing. Either Krivsky didn't get that or he was never able to address it successfully. To me it is that simple. That's why attendance at GABP has never met expectations and that's why so many fans are down on the organization
I hate to see anyone lose their job, but like many of the players he released, he will continue to get a paycheck and frankly he'll find another job.
My hope is that Jocketty can turn things around, but realistically the Reds don't seem to have the personel to play with the best. I'll settle in the short term for a team that acts like losing is not okay.
I think wayne left it in better shape than when he took the gig.You don't get canned for losing after 21 games.Got to be more to it than that. I want to root for a quality team that has class. That goes for you too Bob!
Hope we continue to build from whithin and don't raid the farm to win now.
Always been frustrated by the verbal finger Krivsky always gave the media and fans >> "We have no comment at this time."
All we had to do to get him to comment, was fire him. At his press conference, he had plenty to say >> "I'm damn proud of what I accomplished here, yada, yada ...
Don't let the door hit you Wayne!
Please oh please trade Bronson, release him, send him to the minors, I don't care, something and hopefully, with him gone, those commercials we be gone too. Man are those bad.
Arroyo is a 5, a well paid 5.
Krivsky was a good first step.
Arroyo, A-Gone, Affeldt, C-Patheticson, and Fogg should be next, immediately.
Where is Jay Bruce? Hairston Jr. is not going to hit like this for long.
I think Jocketty was going to get this job from day one. They just needed an excuse to get Krivsky out, and the bad start was their only window of opportunity.
Has Arroyo had a decent start yet? AT best he is a no. 5 starter. My vote sends him to long relief and try Afeld as a starter as he is pitching well.
ldp - Let me introduce you to Mike Brown. ha ha
Bronson Oh-No
Enough is enough.
Castellini is right. This hurts, of course. Krivsky is not a "bad man", but a time comes when you have to say enough is enough. And that time was today.
Hey this new start is really working out!! I am frustrated with the Reds already. Loosing to the Astros 9-1. Yet another loosing year and today's move was just icing on the cake. I don’t blame Krivsky for everything that went wrong, he worked with what he had and did a good job. When it comes down to it he takes the fall for everyone else. Other than his salary will someone please tell me why Arroyo is still on this team? He could not beat a little league team with the way he is pitching. I would try to trade him to anyone that wants him and bring up Bailey. Why is it that every year we have to go through this? 1990 was the last good year we had.
Good, good, good! Quite nice to hear, AND BELIEVE, BC say, "...we're just not going to lose any more." Keep up the HIGH EXPECTATIONS, Bob!!!!!!
I have always admired Walt Jocketty from afar. That man is very proactive in making his team the best he can. Most of the time, he pulled the right strings.
I, couldn't be happier as a Reds' fan. Tomorrow, I'm taking off work and taking in the game!! Aye, Cueto!!!
Those without winning attitudes will have a hard time surviving now. Like guys who don't slide or run into catchers in close ballgames.
Oh you mean when someone was thrown out at home before he rounded 3rd base on a missed call by Mark Berry?
Oh okay....that's what I thought. How stupid of that guy not collide with the catcher when the catcher could have ran halfway to third to meet him!
Wow, this is sad...we just fired Brian Cashman for Theo Epstein (a small improvement in an area of strength). I mean, Krivsky did have some bum moves in there, but the biggest thing was that this was done for stupid ticket sales. Look at all the people in here "I'm going to the game tomorrow, etc." WHERE WERE YOU THE LAST TWO YEARS?! I'm in FL and made the trek 3 hrs. away to Sarasota, and might go 5 to Miami to see them take on the Marlins in August. This organization's problem isn't the players or the ownership, it's the fans. Would you hustle when Friday night beerfest and opening day are the only two guarantees of over 20,000 at a game? Half of Cincinnati deserves a winner like St. Louis does. The other half are a bunch of fair-weather whiners who deserve a serious loser - a less-colorful version of the Cubs. While we now have a much more people-oriented GM, we still don't have enough decent people in the seats.
Arroyo is a 5?! I mean, I hate watching him struggle, too, but the man led the NL in quality starts last year, and was amongst the leaders in his all-star season two years back. Maybe he just gets sick of watching all the slags show up and clown around (Dunn not using left field, no ML catcher, a horrendous AA 'pen, veterans who loaf on groundballs)...it's hard feeling like you have to win the game all by yourself everytime you step on the field (believe me, I played on a few horrendous HS teams; 4-4 w/a HR and a L sucks). He'll turn it around in time to have a solid season, even if he falls behind Harang, Cueto, and Volquez statistically. I'd still take him on the hill in game two of the divisional series...
John--or whoever at the Sports section--this is just a heads up that there's a pretty glaring error in the "Jocketty's hits and misses" article. For 2001, it says he drafted Dan Haren in the 2nd round, and that Haren "never played for Cards." Which isn't true at all. He made 28 appearances over 2 seasons, plus 5 more in the postseason.
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