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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Tuesday, July 3, 2007

Dent out

Bench coach Bucky Dent is out. He'll be replaced by GCL Reds manager Pat Kelly. Part-time coach Ed Napolean resigned.

Dent was Jerry Narron's first hire.

Kelly was a guy Krivsky brought in last year.

Assume this means the rest of the coaches are back.

The release from the Reds:

The Cincinnati Reds today replaced bench coach Bucky Dent with Pat Kelly, manager of the rookie Gulf Coast League affiliate and director of their Florida on-field operations.

He will wear uniform number 41.

Kelly, 51, spent 20 seasons managing in the minor leagues for 13 teams, including Richmond (2003-05), Syracuse (1999-2000), Ottawa (1997-98), Harrisburg (1995-96), Chattanooga (1993-94), Indianapolis (1991-92), Rockford (1991), Las Vegas (1990), Wichita (1988-89), Reno (1987), Charleston (1986), Glens Falls (1985) and GCL White Sox (1984). He also served as pitching coach with Glens Falls and GCL White Sox.

He spent the 2006 campaign as a professional scout for the Atlanta Braves.

A catcher, Kelly was drafted by the California Angels in the third round of the 1973 amateur draft and played in the Angels, Toronto Blue Jays, Atlanta Braves and Chicago White Sox minor league systems. On December 8, 1977 he was traded from the Angels, along with Butch Alberts, to the Blue Jays for Ron Fairly. He appeared in 3 games for the Blue Jays in 1980.

Dent, 55, was hired in November 2005 as manager Jerry Narron's bench coach.

In other transactions, outfield instructor Ed Napoleon resigned.


at 9:56 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did they fire Bucky or did he resign?

at 10:08 AM Blogger John Fay said...


at 11:21 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am surprised both the pitching coaches survived.

Two things the Reds should do:

If Joe G. is not hired, then make the move for Sam Perz. (of the former Braves pitching coach fame) in on this staff ASAP. I don't know if got a job, but he is the best pitching coach out there.

Either get Joe or come out and state that the Reds are going to wait until after the season before hiring a top flight guy. Let the fans know so they back the team. I would point out the Reds are a bullpen away from being a big time contender. Maybe trading Dunn for a closer makes sense based on Hamilton and the future potential in Bruce. Gagne anyone?

John. what is the chances of getting Gagne away from the Rangers?


at 11:43 AM Blogger Laura said...

What are your thoughts on these two leaving, John?

at 11:45 AM Blogger kingseyeland said...

Interesting. They're replacing guys who can't get it done with high-level scouts. Sounds like a well-informed overhaul may be in the works...

Or maybe they'll just stop making rookie pitchers look like Cy Young.

at 12:11 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can we get Larkin, Rijo, Paulie O back in the organization, please? None of them are ready to manage, but Larkin and O'Neil in the dugout and Rijo as a pitching coach would inject life into the team.

at 12:38 PM Blogger John Fay said...

I don't think Dent adn Napolean leaving is a big deal. Dent was Jerry's guy, so it's no a shocker. I don't see Rijo and Larkin returning. They're working for Bowden -- a guy who is none too popular with the Reds.

Anon, you're talking about Leo Mazzone. He's still with O's, I berlieve. Sam Perlozzo was manager who was fired.

at 1:30 PM Blogger TGintheVille said...

John - In today's "Under the Knife" column on Baseball Prospectus, Will Carroll suggests that Homer Bailey is hurt (shoulder, elbow, other?)... Have you heard anything about this?

at 1:33 PM Blogger Mr. Redlegs said...

Leo Mazzone has a three-year contract with the Orioles, he's done a tremendous job with their young pitchers, he's from Maryland, and says he has no intention of leaving.

However, a world-class pitching coach is sitting on his farm in southeastern Ohio. If his health is holding up, you can't do much better than Ray Miller.

Don't think Rijo is pitching coach material. But he'd be fine in the bullpen.

And the day Larkin and John Allen are on the payroll at the same time is probably the day the Wicked Witch of the East has died.

at 1:44 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

anyone catch the Brandon Phillips comment? I have to agree with him, this season has TOTALLY revolved around Hamilton's comeback, and Jr. homerun chase, now, we are still obscessed with Jr keeping him here til he get 600. Who cares? as long as you are on a losing team, one focused on only certain players, such as ours.... no one outside Cincinnati pays attention....just ask Aaron Harang.

at 1:52 PM Blogger Mark said...

On pitching coaches surviving... Yeah, I still wonder about the pitching coaches. Again I say get rid of Boom Boom Hume. Too many lives for this guy... maybe he should be called Meow Hume!

As for Pat Kelly, I like that decision.

As for Dent, I'd say there must have been some strong under currents for him not to get a shot at the club. Plus I'm not sure I want a former YANKEE running this team.

at 2:06 PM Blogger Scott in NC said...

I wonder about Dick Pole. Was he more of a Krivsky hire than a Narron hire? Just from noting dugout shots on t.v., Narron and Pole did not seem to communicate as closely as a manager/pitching coach do in the dugout but that could be my misperception.

at 2:20 PM Blogger Laura said...

Why does no one mention Mario Soto as our pitching coach?

at 2:23 PM Blogger John Fay said...

Soto would be good. But if he wanted to be on that track, I think he would stayed with the Bats all of last year.

The other thing on that subject: If the Reds bring in name a big-name guy or even a slightly big-name guy, he's bringing his own pitching coach.

at 3:09 PM Blogger liz said...

Can someone answer what could be considered a dumb question? What exactly does a "bench" coach do?

at 3:24 PM Blogger Brj said...

From the AP Archives:

July 29, 2003

General manager Jim Bowden and manager Bob Boone were fired Monday by the Cincinnati Reds, who failed to live up to expectations in a new ballpark.

The Reds also fired hitting coach Tom Robson and third base coach Tim Foli, who were brought in by Boone. The Reds are last in the NL in pitching and have the worst defense in the majors.

Bowden was in charge of a rebuilding that was supposed to bring a winner in 2003, but the team was 46-58 when he was fired.

June 21, 2005 (Two years later)

The last-place Cincinnati Reds fired manager Dave Miley on Tuesday and promoted bench coach Jerry Narron to take over on an interim basis for the rest of the season.

Pitching coach Don Gullett also was fired. Vern Ruhle will handle the job for the remainder of the season.

At 27-43, the Reds were 18 1/2 games behind St. Louis in the NL Central. Cincinnati lost 6-1 at home to St. Louis on Monday night in Miley's last game.

July 2, 2007 (Two years later)

Now, it's Pete Mackanin's turn to end the enduring slump.

The Cincinnati Reds turned to their advance scout on Monday to try to jolt the major leagues' worst team out of its doldrums. They fired manager Jerry Narron on Sunday night, barely a year after he got a two-year contract extension that suggested stability.

(Instead,) instability is becoming their hallmark.

They have the major leagues' worst record at 31-51 and are in last place in the weak NL Central, trailing Milwaukee by 16½ games. Fans have lost interest as rapidly as the team has lost games: Cincinnati is on pace for
its first 100-loss season since 1982.


I've got an old Bing Crosby record lying around that goes something like this:

"It seems to me I've heard this song before

It's from an old familiar score

Ah, yes, I know it well..."

at 4:59 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Uh, Mark 12:52PM, you say you didn't want a former Yankee running the team? Lou Piniella was one and that worked out great. This team could use his passion.

at 6:19 PM Blogger John Fay said...

Bench coach keeps the lineup card, helps keep the manager with decisions. Basically an assistant manager.

at 6:36 PM Blogger liz said...

John - thanks for the info on a bench coach.

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