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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Thursday, April 24, 2008

Baker on Bruce and Bailey

Reds manager Dusty Baker is as eager as most Reds fans to see outfielder Jay Bruce and pitcher Homer Bailey in a Reds uniform, but he says the club has to make sure it does the right thing by the two highly-regarded prospects while considering the club’s long-term needs.

“You’re not going to bring them up and don’t play them,” Baker said Thursday. “You want them to tear it up versus coming here prematurely and then have to go back. Even if we need them, you’ve got to do what’s right, number one, for the kids because when they get here, they’re not going back.”

Has it reached the point during the Reds’ slow start where they really do need Bruce and Bailey?

“Need is not the issue right now,” Baker said. “The issue is we’ve got guys here that have done the job and are about to do the job. I mean, are you going to tell me Adam Dunn is not going to hit 40 home runs? Are you going to tell me Griff’s not going to hit 30 home runs?
“I’m dying for them to get here. I really am. I’m excited about it. But sometimes you have to sit on your hands and let them play.”

Asked if he believed that Bruce and Bailey were ready to succeed in the big leagues, Baker said he wasn’t sure.

“I’m not there with them,” he said. “I see the reports. Three weeks isn’t a real long period of time. Jay Bruce has been there three weeks and for Homer Bailey it’s his second tour there.

“Homer has cut down his pitches. He’s cut down his delivery so they don’t run on him all the time. There’s more things to learn than just hitting and pitching if you’re going to win in the big leagues because those guys will capitalize on the little things you don’t do that may not show up in the box scores.”


at 3:10 PM Blogger NVreds said...

I've been saying this since spring training. I'm real glad to hear baker agrees, because its the right move. I want bruce to "succeed", not just be here because the ball club stinks. Bad MLB experience is bad, i want him to have good experience. someone posted that they thought he should be brought up, put in CF, and leadoff, AND STAY THERE NO MATTER WHAT. There are so many things wrong with that I can't even begin to list them, and i don't feel like typing that much. I'm really really happy dusty agrees.

bring him up when he has the least amount of pressure on him, not when he has the most. seriously people, its the best move.

at 3:11 PM Blogger Craig said...

Why doesn't Dusty just say he doesn't want Jay Bruce in Cincinnati because he won't be able to play his out machine buddy in center field?

at 3:13 PM Blogger NVreds said...

"I'm dying for them to get here. I really am. I'm excited for when they get here. But sometimes you have sit on your hands and let them play. It's best for them." - dusty

pretty much how I feel. I can be patient, bruce will not suddenly turn the team around.

at 3:18 PM Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

Too bad Dunn & Griffey never learned how to win in the big leagues.

Dump the Dinosaurs!

Lets see if Jay Bruce has(learned to win).

I don't think Bailey is going to make it. The Reds ruined him and I said it first last July.

at 3:18 PM Blogger Gale said...

Is baker serious, referencing Dunn and Griffey, but not talking about the garbage you run out to centerfield everyday. I don't think any of the fans, media or anyone else was referring to replacing dunn or griffey with Bruce. DFA Patterson and don't insult our intelligent, otherwise Cast. can show you the door as well.

at 6:27 PM Blogger LongTimeRedsFan said...

Irresponsible comment from Dusty...."I'm not the with them....I see the reports". Don't worry Dusty. You should go to Louisville for a few days and see for yourself. We won't miss you.

at 7:44 PM Blogger Don said...

“The issue is we’ve got guys here that have done the job and are about to do the job."

And while we wait for these guys to get the job done, the are spiraling to the bottom of the division. I have no doubt some of these guys are going to break out, but will it really matter if this offense gets to clicking when the Reds are in last place and 11 games out of first place?

Jocketty may be at a critical time right now. Does he pull the trigger with some roster moves or trades now or wait? If he waits, with a nine game road trip and a three game home stand against the red hot Cubs on the horizon, then it may be too late and the Reds might as well start looking as 2008 as the 2009 pre season.

at 9:36 PM Blogger T-Mac said...

I would like to tell Dusty that Dunn WILL NOT hit 40 HR's and Griffey WILL NOT hit 30 this year . . . so now what?

Might want to take a look at Patterson, EE, Arroyo, Weathers and Fogg (to name a few). Appears to me there could plenty of playing time for the kids, if you really wanted them to. Seems to be working for Arizona.

at 7:24 AM Blogger jc said...

baker 3 for 4 with a double and homer. bray goes two innings with two strikeouts and an era of 1.04.

this guy lehr throws six more shutout innings.

at 12:19 PM Blogger redsfaninchitown said...

Dusty, Bruce will replace those two yutzes who can't hit and when they do get run themselves into double plays or get caught doing who knows what, they won't replace Dunn or Griffey. Bailey will replace the BP throwers who leave the offense 5 runs down after 2 innings. Wake up, this team needs help and an injection of enthusiasm. Not the re-tread castoffs you managed before.

at 3:23 PM Blogger bmurdock said...

This team has been notorious for rushing players along (especially pitchers) and ruining them. It is refreshing to hear a manager that is going to show some patience and let these guys develop.

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