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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Thursday, April 24, 2008

Today's lineups

Astros

Hunter Pence - RF
Darin Erstad - CF
Miguel Tejada - SS
Lance Berkman - 1B
Geoff Blum - 3B
Jose Cruz, Jr. - LF
Mark Loretta - 2B
J.R. Towles - C
Jack Cassel - P

Reds

Corey Patterson - CF
Jerry Hairston - SS
Ken Griffey Jr. - RF
Brandon Phillips - 2B
Adam Dunn - LF
Edwin Encarnacion - 3B
Scott Hatteberg - 1B
Paul Bako - C
Johnny Cueto - P


28 Comments:

at 10:47 AM Blogger Jeff said...

no keppinger, no votto and CP23 in CF...BRILLIANT. here's to Cueto pitching a shutout.

 
at 10:50 AM Blogger The Dunce Cap Marvel said...

No Votto or Keppinger and Patterson back leading off. Why try to win today? That would be stupid...

If our manager hates losing so much, then why does he continue to put out marginal lineups? I'm extremely apprehensive of Jocketty but he has a shot to win me over if he exerts some influence and reigns in our idiot manager.

 
at 11:08 AM Blogger Pete Rose - HOF said...

I like how I'm a disappointed that our starting shortstop isn't playing for the first time since Barry Larkin retired..

 
at 11:09 AM Blogger linuxguy said...

Where's Votto??

 
at 11:26 AM Blogger jdeezman said...

John,

What's the over/under on the # of days it takes Jocketty to move a number of players to improve our catching and RH hitting off the bench?

I say 4 - 5 days tops... and that Bruce and Bailey are both up here within 14 days tops.

In all seriousness, it bothers me that you take some hot bats out of the line-up... Votto, Keppinger, Bako (yesterday)...

Does this smell like Baker moves or Jockety moves to you?

Thanks for all you do on this blog... probably a whole lot more work than originally thought... or just as much and you now hate to be right!

 
at 11:47 AM Blogger ST fan said...

Bill Koch. Thanks for the line-ups for todays game. Could you include which arm the opposing pitcher uses. THANKS.

 
at 11:52 AM Blogger robdicken said...

I still don't understand why Brandon Phillips is put in between 2 left handers when facing a right-hand pitcher.

I understand they are giving a few people the day off, but still...everyday lineup should consist of this against right-handed pitchers:

Jerry Hairston CF (Until he cools off)
Jeff Keppinger SS
Brandon Phillips 2B
Ken Griffey, Jr RF
Joey Votto 1B
Adam Dunn LF
Edwin Encarnacion 3B
Bako/Ross C
Pitcher


That's THE perfect lineup. 3 left-handers in a row are a perfect weapon against right-handed pitchers. I just don't understand the concept of splitting them up like Dusty has been doing. Now, against a left-handed pitcher it makes sense...right-handed it doesn't.

Also, people...I understand you want the best players to play every day, but they do need a day off every now and then. Keppinger especially! Not too many games he's sat out this year, if any at all!

 
at 11:55 AM Blogger RedsFanInHershey said...

Here's to Johnny pitching a shutout, and praying we can score a run.....I have been a fan for over 35 years...and I just cant take it anymore, either open your wallet and spend a ton of money to compete now (which we know isnt going to happen, and I dont believe we should anyway), or finally decide what we as a market are and play accordingly. Bailey, Bruce up, Votto number 3 hitter, Patterson, Hairston, etc. out ( They have been given chances over and over again.) Please somebody make some good decisions and change this clubhouse.

 
at 11:56 AM Blogger schlemdog said...

1. Patterson
2. Hairston

Oh my.

I was hoping we're not going to lose any more started yesterday, but I'm ready for it today.

Go Reds!!!

Give Cueto some early run support and defense.

REEEEEEDDDDDDDS!!!

 
at 12:08 PM Blogger LongTimeRedsFan said...

What?....no Juan Castro??

 
at 12:14 PM Blogger Joe said...

No Votto or Keppinger today? I could see not playing the best players against a divisional foe, if you were leading them in the standings by a comfortable margin. I just looked again to be sure, and that is not the case. Dissappointing.

 
at 12:30 PM Blogger gannfan said...

Has Dusty started his post-game whining yet?

In his final year with the Cubs, Dusty never took responsibility for his managing, he just whined about how unfair things were.

Can't wait to see how Jocketty fixes this one.

 
at 12:31 PM Blogger Jon said...

# Reds are 1-4 in their last 5 home games vs. a right-handed starter.
# Reds are 2-12 in their last 14 vs. a team with a losing record.
# Reds are 1-7 in their last 8 games vs. a right-handed starter.
# Reds are 1-8 in their last 9 home games vs. a team with a road winning % of less than .400.

Now that's gettin' it done!

 
at 12:32 PM Blogger JF said...

A crummy lineup by a crummy manager.

Votto and Keppinger don't need to rest, the Reds need to WIN

 
at 12:35 PM Blogger TimmyT said...

I think this is a Walt-mart clearance special. Patterson and Hatteburg are being shopped, or this is an ultimatum for Patterson. Jeff is right. Cueto will have to be perfect, and maybe Jr. will hit 598. That's our only hope.

 
at 12:35 PM Blogger JF said...

Things that remain constant with the Reds (besides LOSING) is ridiculous lineups, treating youngsters as if they're senior citizens rather than well-trained professional athletes, and really poor timing to put in a crappy lineup.

Hello, Dusty? Anyone in there? This is Houston, Dusty. We have a problem!

YOUR LINEUP

 
at 12:35 PM Blogger Tucker said...

Why cant this team put out a consistent lineup day in -day out? This has been going on for years, without success may I add

1st base Votto
2nd Phillips
SS Gonzalez
3rd Keppinger
LF Encarnacion
CF Bruce
RF Griffey
C.. Bring Back Johnny Bench

For the life of me I cant understand how they let Cantu go..He still hitting .325? thank you

T

 
at 12:39 PM Blogger Mark T said...

I'm generally supportive of Baker, but he does things that trouble me. Running Patterson out there on a day when they really need a win is just plain dumb.

 
at 12:44 PM Blogger Brian said...

I wonder if this lineup is also intended to do some showing of potential. It's hard to trade folks if they spend all of the time on the bench.

And I've had about 24 hours to digest the Jocketty handover. Honestly, I still like it. The negative ninnies and doomsayers will never be happy no matter what. But I think we're getting close to having a well aligned machine.

 
at 12:48 PM Blogger ExactlyEsasky said...

Never, ever, ever pitch to Berkman again. Never. Ever. Or Billy Hall.

 
at 12:49 PM Blogger JF said...

Resting your stars against a team like the Giants (the next series) makes so much more sense than resting Kepp and Votto today...well good thing we won't need to score any runs today, DOH! 2-0... Better hope BP, Jr., and Dunnster rake today.

All I ask from the Reds is the consistent application of common sense. Instead, they're constantly trying to be too fine and frequently outsmarting themselves.

 
at 12:50 PM Blogger JF said...

Patterson can bunt? NEWSFLASH!!!!

(*) (*)

Thank you Billy Hatcher and Brook Jacoby! Great tutelage.

 
at 12:53 PM Blogger Mike said...

Great start...HR to Berkman...man is that move to Jocketty really paying dividends!

Seems to have really motivated the troops!

 
at 1:13 PM Blogger The Dunce Cap Marvel said...

2 things that concern me about today:

1) Keppinger has a bad game yesterday at the plate and with the error. Is this what Dusty has been waiting for to have a reason to sit Kepp and play Hairston at short on a daily basis?

2) What signal do you send your 22 year old rookie pitcher when the team doesn't score runs in his starts and then you run out this lineup to support him? JC should be 3-1 right now and has to be thinking he has to pitch perfectly every game to have a chance. Not a good confidence booster for a young kid.

I am through with Dusty Baker. Now I remember when I got depressed when they signed him: he's an awful manager.

 
at 1:26 PM Blogger MPCB said...

John,

What is your take on Arroyo? He looked strong in spring training, but his fastball is really off. It is rare that he gets 90mph anymore and he looks to be throwing 85% curves/changeups. I think he may need some time on the DL to rest that arm for the long-haul or get treatment on whatever is ailing him. In light of that, I wouldn't be surprised to see Bailey up in the next week or so to fill Arroyo's next slot.

 
at 1:34 PM Blogger jdeezman said...

NEWSFLASH!!!!

CANTU IS NOT A RED!!!!

Can we drop it already?

If your manlove for Cantu (you know who you are people) is that bad, then GO TO HIS TEAMS BOARD TO TALK ABOUT HIM....

HAMILTON TOO!!!


There... I feel much better.. GO REDS!!!

 
at 2:05 PM Blogger John said...

I think they are "showcasing" Hatteburg for a trade. Keppinger needs a day off. Why Patterson is in there...who knows

 
at 2:08 PM Blogger John said...

I think they are "showcasing" Hatteburg for a trade. Keppinger needs a day off. Why Patterson is in there...who knows

 
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