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John Fay has been the Reds beat writer for the Enquirer since 2001. Prior to that, he served in a variety of roles for the Enquirer: backup Reds writer, UC beat writer, backup Bengals writer and as a general assignment reporter. He is a Cincinnati native and a graduate of Elder High School and the University of Dayton.

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Saturday, May 10, 2008

Game 1 lineup v. Mets

Corey Patterson cf
Ryan Freel lf
Ken Griffey Jr. rf
Brandon Phillips 2b
Joey Votto 1b
Edwin Encarnacion 3b
Jeff Keppinger ss
David Ross c
Matt Belisle p

v. LH Johan Santana

Dusty Baker said Griffey and Phillips probably won't start Game 2. It's partly cloudy and cool here.


at 12:53 PM Blogger Don said...

I fully anticipate that within the next week or so Corey Patterson will be taking over Arroyo's spot in the rotation.

Baker's love for this guy defies logic.

at 12:57 PM Blogger Showtime said...

The only certainties in life are death, taxes, and Baker batting Patterson leadoff.

at 12:59 PM Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

Glad to see Patterson in there leading off. I think he got a hit off off Santana somewhere in his career. Dusty is playing the percentages. LOL.

Would be a good day to have a guy like Cantu available.

Although I guess it really doesn't matter when the best you can do for starting pitchers is Belisle and Arroyo.

off to the bar for lunch and beer. Could be a long day.

at 1:24 PM Blogger Don said...

Patterson picked off. I think it is such a rarity that he gets on base, he goes into a frenzy and commits stupid mistakes.

at 1:59 PM Blogger Steve said...

You're all upset that Patterson's in the lineup. Not me! My beef is with Belisle. Walks, wild pitches, falling behind in the count, etc. How many opportunities are we going to give this guy? I'd rather go through the growing pains of Bailey than wait for Belisle to shine.

at 2:05 PM Blogger JackBlueAsh said...

Did you notice the save Keppinger made hanging on to that errant throw from Votto? I don't know if Gonzalez makes that play

Keppinger 2nd in the NL of all shortstops in fielding percentage


at 2:31 PM Blogger Don said...

Going into today's game, both Belisle and Arroyo were averaging about 4 2/3 innings per start. There is no way Bailey couldn't average more IP per start than this and keep an ERA of under 7.00. No way.

at 2:34 PM Blogger Don said...

Mets have left nine on base in just four innings. Belisle is lucky he hasn't give up 7 or 8 ERs.

at 2:38 PM Blogger BATSFAN said...


at 2:43 PM Blogger Arden Dulou said...

Hopefully this ends the Belisle as a starter era. Bring up Shearn, bring up Bailey... put Belisle back in the bullpen where he actually above average.

Also, I hope we see the Arroyo from the end of last year tonight.

at 2:45 PM Blogger BATSFAN said...


at 2:45 PM Blogger Clinton said...

Falling behind again. We should be in this. Santana is not pitching that good. Belisle is blah.

at 2:46 PM Blogger Rob said...

CSA- Where would Cantu play? The infield is set and so are the corner outfield spots.
Belisle throwing BP again. Its Homer Time.

at 2:47 PM Blogger Clinton said...

"There is no way Bailey couldn't average more IP per start than this and keep an ERA of under 7.00. No way."

Please don't call him up. It's too early.
Belisle was called up TOO fast this year.

at 2:48 PM Blogger BATSFAN said...

I did go to the Bats game last night we lost 2-0 to Richmond, Lehr pitched great, gave up 1 run in the 7th. Then Coffey gave up a homer in the top of the 9th. Bats had the bases loaded 3 different times and failed to score. I am going tonight see if Bailey can top Lehrs preformance. My bats recored is 3-2 now. The reds should give me a fan contract i went to Cincy twice last year and they won both

at 2:50 PM Blogger Brad WV said...

Calling Homer Bailey and Tom Shearn to the rotation. So long Belisle and Arroyo.

at 2:55 PM Blogger will said...

Keppinger is solid on defense, but he is not as good as Gonzo. Fielding percentage is a very deceiving stat. Gonzo range opens up a lot more opportunities. A good way to measure this is Range Factor which is assists plus putouts divided by games played. As a shortstop Kepp has a career RF of 3.66. Gonzo has a career RF of 4.27. For a benchmark, Barry Larkin had a career RF of 4.32. You can find these numbers at baseball-reference.com

at 2:59 PM Blogger will said...

JBA - Kepp has a career FP at shortstop of .990. Not bad. Barry Larkin had a career FP of .975 By your logic then Kepp is a better defensive shortstop than Barry Larkin.

at 3:14 PM Blogger BATSFAN said...

Patterson is flat out terrible

at 3:16 PM Blogger mrtonyb40 said...

baker needs his head examined starting patterson against santana!dusty has done nothing to impress.how long before the next red gets picked off the bases.so much for fundamentals.

at 3:21 PM Blogger Don said...

Belisle's poor performance has little to do with him being called up too early this year. His ERA last year was well over 5.00. He just isn't a very good pitcher, plain and simple.

One on hand Castellini says win and win now, but then keeps guys like Belisle on the roster when Bailey would be an upgrade. I don't have a problem with the Reds not bringing Bailey up right now, but when Castellini fires the GM because he said the losing is over and when he speaks of winning and winning now, it sends mixed signals when they run Arroyo and Belisle out there and keep guys like Bruce and Bailey in AAA.

at 3:22 PM Blogger will said...

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at 3:25 PM Blogger Reds fan in LA said...

John, What type of pitcher is Justin Lehr. We Have Enough Power Starters, we need pitchers with good off speed stuff, not BP stuff (Arroy and Belisle).

at 3:29 PM Blogger BATSFAN said...

Watching the Reds isnt fun anymore

at 3:39 PM Blogger John Fay said...

I saw Lehr pitch sn inning or two in the spring. I don't remember much about him. He's 30. He's got a 4.13 career ERA in the minors and 5.31 career ERA in 66 big leauge games. I'd be surprised if you see him with the Reds. Nothing again him, but they've got to find out about Bailey.

at 3:52 PM Blogger Richie Rich said...

We should have kept Cantu so he could play CF today!

Any idea why we didn't take advantage of the 2 days off to skip one of our lesser starters turns? Or is that one of the questions we're not allowed to ask, like why Patterson is leading off?

Isn't it funny how a bunch of bloggers know that Patterson shouldn't lead off and that Belisle should be replaced with Bailey, yet a so called manager of the year doesn't?

It tells you a great deal about the people voting for those awards.

at 4:12 PM Blogger BATSFAN said...

Everytime I been Lehr looks really good.

at 4:14 PM Blogger mrtonyb40 said...

i don't think baileys as good as advertised. he didn't look good in ST. Volquez and cueto flew by him.

at 4:14 PM Blogger BATSFAN said...

We need to save the runs were scoring for tonight bc this one is over

at 4:15 PM Blogger BATSFAN said...

Well guys im off to the Bats game Ill let you know how Bailey looks

at 4:47 PM Blogger will said...

Toney I wouldnt give up on bailey yet. Hes prob got more upside than both Cueto and Volquez. If he can keep his walks and pitch counts down at the major league level then hes going to be real good. He's pitched pretty well so far in Lousivlle. They need to call Homer up and see if he can take that next step.

at 5:13 PM Blogger Don said...

The issue isn't whether he is better than Cueto or Volquez. He just needs to be better than Arroyo or Belisle, and that this point that shouldn't be very difficult.

at 5:20 PM Blogger will said...

Don - How very true. A this point they need to bring him up.

at 5:42 PM Blogger Red Faced said...

Can we please, please just leave Patterson in NY when the team leaves. Dusty!!!! If you don't have the common sense to sit Patterson on the bench or even get rid of this guy then will you please drop him down to the bottom of the lineup at the very least.

This is just killing me.

And yes, it's time to try Homer Bailey 2.0 and push Belisle to the BP.

at 6:30 PM Blogger Don said...

Bailey's line so far tonight against Richmond... 1 IP 2 ERs, 3 HA.

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